It can act like an agm and it’s already in the files.
The complain towards the Kh-38 is not it’s range. If that’s the case, the Agm-130 and Hammer would also be equally as bad as the Kh-38.
The main complain is the speed of the Kh-38. It can reach targets faster than all other agms in the game and by a large margin making enemies have less time to react. This is what make it extremely deadly and hard to counter.
So you want to give them a missile that has 2.2x less speed, which is something you say is extremely important and makes all the difference.
I thought all that difference should warrant more than just a 0 or 0.3 BR reduction.
i wouldnt say that jsut because something is in the files that it should be added to the game
a few examples would be:
it kinda is tho, i have seen multiple ppl complaining that the KH-38 can jsut out range every AA and the KH-59 would certainly not make that any better
in case of the KH-59, it wouldnt have a bright white smoke trail, as it isnt powered by a rocket booster but a jet engine, which makes it easy to spot and you wont see the launch plattform because it can fire the KH-59 from like 50km+ away,
so the KH-59 will probably be harder to spot than the KH-38 and you cannot react to something you cannot detect
It’s amusing that some people think that ilga is better then counterparts it was 10.2 G vs 13G now it’s 9.8G vs 20G and ilga somehow with lower numbers wins
If I gave the F-15E aim-9x before any other nation gets similar missiles and I wanted to remove it (it’ll still have the aim-9m) because it’s too broken, does that warrant a BR reduction?
Removing a broken weapon and replacing it with a weapon that has similar capabilities to other nations doesn’t mean it gets it’s BR reduced.
As mentioned before, I can see the SM3 be either 12.0 or 12.3. It’ll ultimately depend on how good the Kh59 performs
The Su34 will be at the same BR as the RMV so yes I think the .3 br reduction will be fair.
The Su30 will remain in the same BR as it will be a direct competitor to the Rafael
Because of the post launch corrective maneuver it performs, it zeros out much of the misalignment for free.
you can see it in the attached link
Well it didn’t have it when AH-1Z was the top tier heli it makes this 20G vs 9.8G comparison with Igla winning in it hillarious
Kh-59 have same TV seeker as Kh-29T only differense it has datalink so no it will not be replacement for Kh-38
there is an IR version iirc,
that is also in the files
Well it’s in same loop as Kh-38MT maybe even worse
Right now, you will rarely see anyone complaining about the mavericks out ranging spaa. why? Because they can be intercepted with ease.
that’s the main reason why I want the Kh59 to replace the Kh38. It gives spaa (not all but some) a fighting chance. Don’t get me wrong, it’ll still be a menace like the hammers.
The core point is though. If the soviet need a paper weapon to compete with AGM-65. Then at least give them something on par with AGM-65. Not something that blows AGM-65 completely out the water.
Those weapons arent even in same league as each other. And thus far Gaijin has only added a single weapon system that is even close to KH-38MT and thats the AASM.
We have yet to get weapons of comprable range or overall performance for everyone else, like Brimstone 3s or GBU-53s
Well Su-30SM is not performing on the same level as EF-2000 or F-15E nor Rafale it has really weak engines compared to them it can not dodge missiles like they do it bleeds speed and need time to gain it
Su-30SM is not that bad. You make it sound like it has a worse FM than a Tornado and given you never have to defend against a Pantsir, what exactly cant you defend against?
By that logic of “bad airframe = OP missiles” why doesnt the Tornado GR4 have FnF Brimstone 3s?
have you flown an f15e its a brick the only advantage it has over anything anywhere near top tier is its speed, it doesnt even have a particularly good missile load anymore
The Kh-38MT doesn’t need a replacement, the Kh-38ML objectively does the exact same job as the MT does, but the ML is much slower at doing it and requires a bit more skin in the game than the MT, and the MT actually has proof of operational existence and being used in combat and on the Su-34.
The Kh-38ML would already be the best AGM in-game without the added benefit of F&F, barring maybe the AASM IR. The whole argument of it needing a replacement is a point pro-russian players are using to deflect the convo away from the fact they have no actual evidence the MT specifically ever made it beyond the mockup stage.
Why Su-30SM must be balanced around sub tier vehicle ? 13.0 vs 14.0 this is nonsense
Yes and it can easily bleed out pantsir missile from 9-10 km making zigzag maneuvers
idk what kind of f15e you are playing because its turning circle is so large that there isnt a point trying to make zigzag manuvers because at 10km you wont get through the second turn before the pantsirs missile reaches you
No. Pantsir missile doesn’t have a sustainer it will bleed all of his energy even an jet flying straght perpendicularly to the trajectory of a missile with speed above 1 mach from 10km is a difficult target and if it activley manuevering plane can just out run all enegry from missile
I believe Gaijin is intentionally hiding this post from being searched in the forums lmao.
Despite this being undeniable the most popular thread on the forums since it was made, it doesn’t even show up when you search KH-38 until you scroll down on the search list, I literally had to zoom out to get it in the same frame.
I literally can’t see how this could happen in any way other than them intentionally hiding it unless the search tool is just completely out of whack in every case. I mean even when you search KH-38 on google this is one of the first results so how isn’t it on the forums.
I mean some of these posts that appear above it literally have 0 likes on them, so I don’t get how they would be more “relevant”. I just can’t understand it but maybe someone else does and could enlighten me.
