if they werent malicious all the time it wouldnt be as bad
now they cant disclose anything without backlash because of it
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Well, someone needs to be held accountable for the headaches this weapon has been giving everyone for a year.
At least the dev(s) that said “we believe this to be a clear marketing lie” came forward to clarify what they truly meant. We need someone at Gaijin to speak up on this situation, otherwise they don’t have a shred of remorse or integrity anymore.
Yeah… It would be one thing if this was a niche weapon that no one cared about, like if it turned out that fireflash never existed or something.
But its another when its literally the most complained about weapon of all time (or at least the last year)
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Have you considered that maybe your “opinions” getting the reactions they do isnt because you are defending Kh-38MT, or because of what you main
but because of content of your opinions? Like implying missile with objectively worse stats is better than Kh-38MT because…?
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I never implied or said that one time. The KH-38 is the best. But… at the same rate, if there was 8 instead of 6, vs say 18 brimstones, in total, the KH-38 is less effective.
A single 1:1 ? No. KH38 is better.
I don’t think I can say it any clearer than that, nor has my opinion changed at all.
You have said exactly that though:
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So much of the last 600 posts are whataboutism tantrums.
Kh-38MT’s existence is still in limbo.
Don’t what about to another weapon, double down on your initial stances instead.
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Kronstadt exists and that was pure paperwork.
geniunely useless example, naval is known to follow seperate rules for addition
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no it isnt, because naval is given extra leeway to allow more countries to actually have usable top ships instead of just RN, USN, IJN, and Kriegsmarine like it should be
im not saying i agree with it but its how it is for naval
I have question, and please answer honestly. Why are you doing this?
You already said
And weve already estabilished that Kh-38MT is better than Brimstones, something even you admitted
So now you literally circled back to where we were.
Again, as you yourself said, fact that more Brimstones can be carried when compared to Kh-38MTs doesnt make Brimstones inherently better.
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My god…
Sus? U accused me of things that didnt even happen xDD but when i replied u backed off TWICE without any further response where i asked for so called “evidence”
u should be the last person to callout people
explain or not they’ll face humiliation regardless but maybe admit their mistake might be less or prove that weapon was real so they can get away with it without backlash.
Like I said before, I dont think its necessarily fair to say the Kh-38MT was a “clear” marketing lie. I did do a LOT of digging before I came to the conclusion it likely never operationally existed, chasing every single mention of it down to their inevitable source, the old marketing brochures/outdated online catalogue entries from KTRV/ROE, and there still is a slim possibility gaijin has info we don’t publicly have.
Id say their handling of the situation following the creation of this thread is more the issue. I can understand and to some degree excuse a mistake like putting a a variant (MT) that never existed of a missile that did(Kh-38ML) when there are “official” numbers for the missile variant on a brochure.
What I find much less excusable though is them not making a single announcement about the situation. No official “we’re looking into it, hold tight”, no “here is proof that it was operationally tested that the OP (me) did not find”, nothing. Just dead silence.
Its both suspicious, and insulting.
Gaijins now infamous response to a bug report that the EFT should be able to supercruise at M1.5 as per multiple sources from the makers of the jet was that, in gaijins opinion, this was “a clear marketing lie”. Dedale is poking fun at the fact that gaijin wont take the manufacturers of the EFT at face value on claims for a jet that very much does exist, but seems to have gotten dupped by what seems to be marketing material for a missile that never actually existed beyond mockups and brochures.
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This question remind me of the issue about ZTZ99A 's turret armor. The lower part of its turret armor have an incorrect ke data. But the reporter said that we must prove that the part of the armor exist. According to this logic, Gaijin also should prove that kh38mt actually exists. If they can’t, they should remove it.
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Maybe it’s time to make a bug report?
Ive already been told a bug report is not the way to handle this by gaijin staff. The thread is the best way to handle it allegedly, which makes me all the more angry there hasn’t been any official statement.
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There are a couple.
Of the two I’ve seen, one was closed with “not a bug” and the other was being ignored.
Yea, they’re sitting on a burning gunpowder box.