I would love to see the replay. Link?
Bc US Army is so awesome
https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/332836411840171496
As anyone could have worked out, I loitered until folk came in to land then salvoed Kh 38s. And then promptly fumbled it after being annoying. I was/am too tired to play properly, so it’s just screwing around and then failing miserably lol
if ru can have kh38mt agm then give us antiair with aim9x and aim120
Better yet, Nike Hercules SAM with 20 kiloton nuclear warhead
The Brimstone II would already add IOG and drastically improve range. It’s best to implement things step by step instead of starting with the strongest version.
It would be quite confusing to have multiple versions of the same weapon with the featureset enabled to different degrees. It could also cause balancing problems (even more so for systems like the AGM-62 ER). It’s easier to just add a Brimstone II/III with mmW and LOAL capability later and leave the previous versions cut down to SALH capability.
You are in a discussion about balancing. That has nothing to do with the KH-38MT being realistic or not. Just adding it in is confusing and obnoxious. Besides that I’m not even arguing for the KH-38MT to stay in the game.
I didn’t say anything like that. I said that good pilots with the Typhoon perform well, which indicates that it is a very capable platform in its current state. Otherwise it wouldn’t be able to do so, like the Tornado GR.4 which does much worse.
Judging balancing by how good players perform in vehicles is the opposite of stats based balancing.
Yep, that is the core my argument.
It’s one thing to add KH38MT if everyone had Pantsir level SPAA.
It’s a other when most could barely do anything about a kh29
Give SAMP/T pls.
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What exactly did you see to made you think this?
Its SALH,requiring for you to fly in such way that the target stays within the gimbal limit of the targeting pod, severely limiting your defensive options
It requires direct hit to do any sort of damage
And its slows requiring you to stay exposed for extremely long
Ita in no way shape or form comparable to even A and B Mavericks, let alone any advanced F&F munition.
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It has the same IOG as the Brimstone 1. Brimstone 3 upgrades the INS
I have no idea what that is
French/Italian contraption. Has a slightly silly missile, as most France-related contraptions are wont.
Ah, yeah that would be good. I want either the anglo-ukrainian ASRAAM slinger or Skysabre for Britain
Lazy photo filched from wikipedia because couldn’t be bothered opening a new tab.
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Mostly people I squad up with playing it in GRB or SQB, they tend to do completely fine. Sure, the KH-38MT, AASM SBU-64 and even AGM-65D offer advantages as long range fire and forget weaponry, but you can’t prefire them for example. The Brimstone is arguably the best weapon to take out capable SPAA players with because of the ability to do that.
The AGM-65A and B can’t hold up to any of these weapons at all.
Spoiler
Here’s an example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ak8GFyxBVE
I saw “improved IOG” listed somewhere in a description of the Brimstone II, maybe that was wrong or I’m misremembering things then.
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Thats incredibly niche scenario when you focus single AA and nothing else.
F&F planes can simply ripple fire all of their ordnance and take out several ground targets during that time window and be completly fine.
Brimstone 2 is 200% increased range and improved HOBS
Taking out SPAAs at top tier is very common in my experience. It’s also quite effective at increasing your winrates since it prevents your teammates from taking a head on against one and dying. If SPAA are dead it’s also less of a problem that you’re firing SALH munitions.
Another advantage is that you can actually engage people that are close to wrecks, which becomes a problem for F&F munitions often, especially in late game and/or on small maps.
Most of the time, sure.
Well, at least when I touched toptier, did mostly focus AA so that folk could smite the other folks on the ground with less threat. But haven’t played it much in a while. But I was also doing that with a Gripen, so my ability to target lots of stuff was kinda kneecapped.
The point is though. A typhoon has to engage in such tactics to defeat a Pantsir…did a match in the tornado Gr1 the other day and there wasn’t anything I could do Vs a Pantsir. All my PGMs were shot down.
But a Su25SM3 Vs an ADATS? it’s point, fire and 1x kill guaranteed against said SPAA. Same is true for 80% of top tier SAMs