It was you that claimed to know margin of error and confidence level based on bogus assumptions in a complete absence of data, not me. We wouldn’t be talking about this if you had an inkling of an idea about statistics.
Used by a self selected part of the userbase (pretty much the opposite of randomized) that disproportionately comes here to complain.
There is no such thing. I already mentioned that, political polling agencies go to great lengths to ensure a representative sample group. If they just went to some convention and asked everyone there their results would be garbage.
Pushbacks don’t happen here as this place is pretty isolated and won’t really stop them from gathering new players.
The larger the size the more accurate it is.
Perfect would be an in-game poll that is shown to people that play in modes and areas affected by poll topic.
Asking Naval-only people what they think about 8.7 helicopters doesn’t make much sense, don’t you think ?
except there aren’t “2 groups” that need to be asked something thus comparative groups are useless
disproportionately? or just more people disagreeing with your opinion?
feel free to prove your claim
which is invalid because what we would have here would be considered an election type of poll and not a prepoll which people can change minds after or otherwise highly volatile
you also did not address the false equivalence which i told you about
even here we could expect a difference between prepoll and the actual vote
however we dont do prepolls because the opinion can indeed change afterwards by some %
What? What does this have to do with two groups? You would need one randomised group to get representative results.
If you haven’t noticed that the forum is used disproportionately for complaints I don’t know what to tell you. How many topics have you seen that go somewhere along the lines of “this game is working great and is a lot of fun!”? That’s not bad either, it’s largely their purpose and like that in almost every game. It’s just one of many ways in which a forum userbase can’t be representative of the playerbase as a whole.
Can you try writing in intelligible english?
You need a representative group for every poll. Quickly changing opinions and sways are an additional hardship for election polls, but they also have solid references (the elections) and decades of data to work with. We don’t have either for the userbase of this forum, and how representative the population of an individual topic is to the playerbase as a whole will likely heavily vary depending on the topic too.
Even if you can ask everyone there are additional factors that influence results. Framing of the question and answer options, for example.
Like yes…you are right. The question and options must be appropriately chosen. It is not enough to just ask whether to keep or remove, but it is also necessary to provide options for replacement if removal will have more votes.
a loud minority. feel free to check the polled peoples post histories
what do you expect from anyone playing this game? this idea is shared amongst steam reviews, redditors, the general playerbase in a sense that there is indeed a “love hate relationship” and the existence of such does not invalidate everything as you may think of
and clearly you don’t know the rule of past performance not being indicative of future results (you clearly change your argument where it suits you, first you trash on election polls, then where it suits you, you try to start supporting them)
also not addressing the biases as you indeed do act in bad faith.
any good faith user would address where they had a logical flaw, backtrack and actually fix their argument
pick your stance, keep it and don’t use bad faith nor other flaws like past performance biases or logical fallacies
i already told you that pre polls don’t happen, too. this clearly flied over your head and you’re still arguing as if this poll would be a pre poll
this isn’t “gaijin makes a poll to try to predict results of another poll made later in time with same questions”
your election poll idea is a false equivalency.
Yes, that describes the forum userbase pretty well.
Many people just play and have fun and are largely unseen here. Those that are frustrated/annoyed enough by something complain. It’s like that for most games, really.
These entire two paragraphs don’t make any sense. I don’t get what you think the logical flaw is. Please try to point it out in coherent english. Use some punctuation while you’re at it.
I am not arguing that this poll would be a “pre poll” (whatever that is, and whatever the problem with that would be I don’t know).
I am using election polling as an example for how hard it is to select a representative group of people to ask in the first place.
So to sum up, the side claiming its real have produced nothing concrete and similarly the side claiming it doesnt exist haven’t produced anything more than speculation and conjecture based on marketing material changes and not anything concrete like a memo or meeting note discussing its cancellation or even planned cancellation. nearly 4300 total messages and y’all still manage to come back to square one.