The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

[DevilO6]

Oh, you are one of, them…

[MrBombastic8]

Idk how to say this but
yall have been yapping for 3k lot messages and
You said it exist we ask for 38mt existence proof, you dont have it and then derail the thread to “omg bro you dont know scheibe” derail the thread and start from ground 1
We said it doesnt exist, you said “omg bias bro!!!”
the tactic you are doing is very effective because everytime we mention it u immediately jump in and “bias bro” or “skill issue yall have it for years” “let us have something” “it exist trust me bro”
“theres mockups so it exist” “seeker was installed” ok what it is? it is functional or mockups? when we ask something yall ignore it because urself cant answer it and you have
ZERO EVIDENCE
ZERO PROOF
ZERO IDEA
ZERO LOGIC
ZERO COMMON SENSE
ONE HUNDRED PERCENT ARBITRAL BIAS
hell even the RU forums also put in question whether or not it exist and yall still go “it exist bro trust me bro you dont know nothing”
I literally have to make a list on who to trust and who is trolling because of these type of arguement
and then my post is definitely getting cut out of context to support ur zero logical arguement

[Alpharius11348]

if you look at the URL its over 4100 messages but over 400 deleted for being off topic

[Thenighthunter]

[Lolman345]

Reminder that with AGMs like the KH-38 which sport IOG, if the target does not move outside it’s FOV, it will acquire the target as a target track as it gets closer, or anything with sufficient emissions, wrecks, passing planes, the dying sun that is the emissions of a F-14A.

This is not the case for missiles without IOG for some reason, the French ASM Hammer can do the same.

[dotSHINI]

@Segment

Many missiles were never used in combat, but that does not mean they did not exist

Never used in combat and never tested is a different thing.
There is no prove of the KH 38MT to be functional thats the issue.
The other missles you seem to be hinting at have prove to have been at least be test shot etc.
The same cant be said about the KH38MT, there is only a until proven otherwise non functional mock up

@Segment

It is surprising how warmly the topic was received, much of it “proof of non-existence” being untrue, disinformation and misleading.

Show us a functioning KH 38MT, its that easy

[maguumo]

Lock range is dependant on silhouette size. Try it against a tank sized target.

@Lolman345

Reminder that with AGMs like the KH-38 which sport IOG, if the target does not move outside it’s FOV, it will acquire the target as a target track as it gets closer, or anything with sufficient emissions, wrecks, passing planes, the dying sun that is the emissions of a F-14A.

This is not the case for missiles without IOG for some reason, the French ASM Hammer can do the same.

All AGMs can switch from POINT to TRACK lock if something is in the center of their FoV once they get into TRACK range. The ones without IOG just explode when they lose a TRACK lock. I use that with AGM-65Ds against SPAAs from time to time, but it’s of limited use since they take forever to get to their target at extreme ranges.

[Nowel]

those are ships not tanks…

[ShOt_MaCkEr]

@Segment

It is surprising how warmly the topic was received, much of it “proof of non-existence” being untrue, disinformation and misleading.

You have a nerve to come here, skip 3600 messages and come up with a set of complete nonsense takes.

@Segment

Kh-38ME with thermal seeker

Unspecified seeker + unspecified missile type = general mockup, hence not an evidence of it existence.
Same as a plastic model not being a proof of anime girls existing.

@Segment

Many missiles were never used in combat, but that does not mean they did not exist.

If it was there - they would use it. We haven’t even seen a single photo of it attached to anything. not even for testing.

@Segment

Mockup IS NOT evidence that missile IS NOT existing.

As well as it’s not being evidence for it’s existence.

@Segment

It is surprising how warmly the topic was received, much of it “proof of non-existence” being untrue

No one is saying that. That’s just a common sense conclusion.
Because there’s not a single evidence of its existence.

@Segment

disinformation and misleading.

And that’s what ru military usually does, adding up to doubts.
This missile isn’t real.
And here how it’s happened:
RMoD - We need a modular missile, here’s what we want it being able to do
Manufacturer - Oh hell yea, your money - our pleasure, we can do that.
(turns out they can’t and they actually knew it before signing up a contract)
Manufacturer - Oh well, dear MoD, at least ML variant is good!!!
(other variants are forgotten about, because if you tell about your fails - you lose)

[DevilO6]

@ShOt_MaCkEr

Same as a plastic model not being a proof of anime girls existing.

Segment:

You have alerted the horde. 90% of WT Live population is after you.

[ShOt_MaCkEr]

Spoiler

[Thenighthunter]

The AGM-65D were able to get a lock little under 20km on the old wake island map with the speed boats about the size of a tank.

[dotSHINI]

u saw the new CC decal yet? looks great!

[Thenighthunter]

@Thenighthunter

I have been able to get a 20km lock with even a maverick not that the anemic performance of the missile did much for it. I believe the issue is LOD I would often see tanks phasing in and out of the ground around that range which leads me to believe that is the issue. I had less issues locking onto boats at that range even speed boats.

I know.

[DevilO6]

I did.

[Segment]

@dotSHINI

Never used in combat and never tested is a different thing.

This is what MythicPi said. This is one of his proofs of Kh-38MT non-existence. I am glad you agree with me.

@MythicPi

The Kh-38MT has never been said to have been used in combat despite the Kh-38ML being used extensively

[DevilO6]

@MythicPi I would suggest you update the main topic. Info there is outdated.

[dotSHINI]

the ML is being used or tested is not prove of the MT.
There is more to a missle then its body, The seeker is an important part that needs to be functioning and be integrated

[Nowel]

Well, you should also know that the game doesnt treat ships and tanks in the same ways, the “all aspect” range of the seekers is only agaisnt ships not tanks, you cant get a track at a tanks at 20km

[maguumo]

Those “speedboats” were Elco class torpedo boats. They’re 25 meters long. Try locking on a tank and see at what range you can get it to switch from POINT to TRACK. It’ll be ~13 km. It’s been that way forever.