Essentially 75% of the missile has been used in combat (since the kh-38 family is modular) the last 25% we have seen on display at least once in 2017 despite the author of the threads claims that whats on display is a ML (despite not having any of the identifying features of a Russian Laser guided weapon), and is likely not in production as the only real application for IR agms is AShM which is already widely covered by the KH-59 family of weapons. Testing etc we cant talk to as we have no documents to date. As for its inclusion in the game its already in might as well leave it. Mostly cause the can of worms it would open is not worth it cause it will have knock on affects on at least hammer but likely also on mavs too, to a degree.
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yes they can use the Laser and GPS variants we have no idea if they have the wiring needed to receive high quality thermal images from weapons mounted in all of those hardpoints which is important because in game it has to find targets through the KH38s onboard seeker
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oh yeah, even if it did enter service we dont know if it was capable of tracking tanks or was designed for stationary targets or ships
I very much dissagree and think it should be removed as it currently makes toptier ground exeptionaly boring to play with how much better it is than other AGMs.
I would except it being unable to track moving targets like it has recently been discoved for IR hammer missiles as then it should be still very usable but less oppressive.
I would also argue that there was a real use for IR AGMs against ground vehicles even if currently they are being suplanted by MMW radar guided ordinance.
i mean chatgpt isnt really 100% true but its way better now than before
Get it out NOW!
Another fantasy system for the soviets
the 38ML is already better than the 65D the MT is even better lord
So it actually going to be removed now?
unfortunately probably not
If this was a NATO missile then gaijin would have removed it by now
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it wouldnt have been added at all
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Rus…Russi…RUSSIAN BIAS!!!
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Seeing as the RuAF seems to despise FnF (TV/IR) weaponry (because of cost, at least that used to be the old reason anyways), wouldn’t shock me.
It’s not fantasy, and it’s not even the most OP missile anymore.
There are 4 missiles ahead of it, and 3 are laser guided.
In the context of ground RB, of course the IR missiles are still OP [they’re better due to the poor ranges of SPAA], but when Python 5 SPYDER comes, the IR AGMs stop being OP and the laser missiles stay OP.
@Miraz05
If this was a NATO missile it’d be on the aircraft: PGM on GR1, AGM-65D/G on the most modern American aircraft, etc.
What the manufacturer says goes.
Unlike the missiles you have mentioned Kh-38MT has no proof of being used.
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Where was the proof it exists in this topic?
Not my place to say.
I was pinged while sleeping about a false claim.
I only commented on what I know, nothing more.
Also I’ve been looking through images of F-18E and there’s no photograph of it equipped with an AGM-65D/F so far even though we know it can carry them due to how the AGM-65 series works and what the manufacturers say.
I gotcha, I saw that claim and was waiting for your source haha.
Well from what I’ve read in here, there might have been a prototype. Maybe.
And from what I’ve seen on the EF, they don’t take only brochure sources, and theres 0 pictures of it being used so… I’m thinking its still fantasy.
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So then whats your excuse for every other guided munition that would take its place. You still have to deal with MLs and eventually ARH AGMs (Although thats the far future). This thread in its entirety is stupid because if it (the missile) didn’t exist past concept gaijin wouldn’t add it because once discovered it would be the fumble of the century at best or more likely another stick to beat them with.
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I have no comment one way or the other personally.
I’m more concerned about laser weapons staying OP when the new SPAA is added within the next couple major updates.
My only claim regarding Kh-38s was that there’s photographs of Kh-38s on the Su-27/30/35 series of jets, I never specified the type.
If I did see any Kh-38MTs it would’ve been photographs of the Su-34, however I never made that claim and I was searching for images that weren’t Su-34 at the time.
And to my understanding all AGMs made after 2000 [regardless of country] are serial-connection systems, which are more universal than older AGMs.
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