The Kh-38MT may not actually exist

why is there a convex lense infornt of it
you dont need them for laser seekers

Don’t you see that they are completely different

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Its likely a mirror to focus the laser if I had to guess

A similar structure is seen on the posted Kh-25ML seeker

a mirror?
infront of the sensor?
you know how stupid that sounds

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Likely the same principle as a mirror telescope, its not stupid at all

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Lots of sensors use mirrors to help focus light, it’s very common.

This is using mirrors.

Or radio dishes. What do you think those are? They’re mirrors for radio waves to reflect and focus them into the sensor.

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This Kh-38ME ( T version)

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Everyone was wrong about what we thought was the seeker, the head is still a SALH head and the pictures he posted actually helped prove that, beyond the fact were discussing what we think the seeker is from the looks of it when the article discussing the missile that was exhibited clearly states it to be a SALH seeker

Sorry, catching up, but yeah thats still not an IIR lens, it looks like what i assume is a mirror seen on the MAKS 2011 pic he provided

Except that compared to the other modern Russian LG munitions like kab-250LG that is way too shallow to be a laser seeker.

Kab-250LG-E from JanesIntel twitter:

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None of that plaque states its a thermal seeker or mentions MTE?

I don’t think it does. The thing you mark here as a mirror:

Looks to me to be just a green PCB (The red “dots” are likely components of some kind). and just below what you marked is a large lens to focus light coming in, likely to something in the center of the PCB.

Here is a different angle:
Screenshot 2025-04-11 173344

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This literally ment nothing. All it points to is the Missile to be a modular 38 for Export.

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MT, does it track emissivity or reflectivity? Scene matching or heat tracking. That sort of stuff.

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It also doesn’t mention laser guidance either. I believe this is due to the missile being modular, which is why all of the designations read “Kh-38ME”

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so you are saying the kh 38mt is fake and should be removed but the kh38mtE exists.
i think i rater stick with the current

Could be right on that point 🧐

That being said, the person who took the image stated it to be an SALH seeker, and we’re trying to determine what kind of seeker it is based on a few pictures with no definitive features.

No? Im saying MT/MTE both likely didnt exist.

NGL from that angle that doesn’t look like a lense.

Yeah i wasnt saying it did there, I was just saying that him posting the plaque as proof its an MTE doesnt prove anything