I’m equally disgusted by those who abuse that mechanic and those who camp waiting for planes to arrive without fuel or ammunition. Anyway, if there’s a guy who doesn’t want to leave his AF, fine by me; time to earn money destroying ground targets. He’ll lose due to lack of tickets
You realise the majority of people want a balanced system in which you can land and re arm and then take back off.
The issue we have is people will literally fly around the runway until the ITO or AA takes the enemy out for them.
Was in my flogger last night i was 3 kills and top of the table. Guess what the remaining F18 did, turned around before he had engaged a single person and flew in circles around his runway.
Due to it being ITO and near impossible to approach we had to trh and ground pound.
You ever ground pound jn a plane with a 23mm GhS cannon? Takes forever.
Anyways , as soon as he noticed us ground pounding he tried to engage, even when onw of us broke off.
He instantly peeled off back to the air field to camp it.
it’s enraging honestly I can’t believe someone would fly around a single point for 10 minutes but I literally just had a havoc do it to my lone re2001 that he didn’t even see because I was at 20k ft. bro literally just camped his airfield.
Have you and other people tried not flying to enemy airfield?
Also, ITO’s aren’t that difficult to evade. Notching works just as well against them and they only have 13 km of range. Stay out of their bubble and you’re fine. If the enemy wants to hover around their airfield then just back away from their airfield and let them come to you… You’re making it more complicated than it needs to be lol
They literally are mate, I’ve tried it even with the typhoon. there is unrendered missiles hurtling towards you as you approach, same idea as at lower brs the rounds dont need to even hit you anymore.
only 13km range, and no in ARB notching them, doesn’t work.
I’ve already mentioned the why we struggle to above.
You again, completely ignored what I said no?
They would leave the airfield, as they do, then return to it as soon as we peel off or one turns around
They do not engage and we cannot return to base without being ran down.
You actively ignoring all of this text
"Was in my flogger last night i was 3 kills and top of the table. Guess what the remaining F18 did, turned around before he had engaged a single person and flew in circles around his runway.
Due to it being ITO and near impossible to approach we had to trh and ground pound.
You ever ground pound jn a plane with a 23mm GhS cannon? Takes forever.
Anyways , as soon as he noticed us ground pounding he tried to engage, even when onw of us broke off.
He instantly peeled off back to the air field to camp it."
Shows your lack of actually wanting to contribute something meaningfull here and not just cause an argument for the sake of it.
TLDR; one person uses their AA to their advantage, you don’t like it, it should be removed entirely because it is difficult to evade. That’s the gist of it? Of course I read it.
Best jet available and couldn’t dodge it? Oof. As for the claim of unrendered missiles… you’re aware you have a missile launch warning (both RWR and MAW) for said AA, right? No way you get 0 warning.
Again, simply staying out of range is always the best defense
yes… if you use proper tactics you can defeat it no problem. I can show you footage of me notching them pretty effectively in game if you’d like. It’s really not that hard.
You did, what’s said above still applies
So to summarise:
You outnumber them
They know they’re outnumbered
They go back and forth to airfield to bait you into AA or come after you while you’re distracted
If I didn’t know any better, this is the rare occurrence of a player using their brain.
To be fair, there’s not much to contribute to a post complaining about not being able to swarm players rearming/refuelling/taking off from their airfield or for those that actually think to use the AA to survive.
EDIT: I forgot to mention this earlier, but you said something about unrendered missiles coming at you that you’re unaware of? If so, do bug report that so they can take a look at that
It’s been a constant problem for years lad, You act as if I’m the only person here bringing up similar situations?
where did I say removed¿
I have stated at least three times on this thread a method which would at least mitigate camping the air field.
There have also been plenty of others suggesting similar things.
It’s not difficult to evade, it’s downright impossible to evade bud as again, has been shown, and stated by multiple people, the ITOs are extremely potent if not downright broken rn.
at no stage did I mention no warning, there is only so much you can do to evade a missile you literally cannot see.
have you actually tried any top tier ARB recently? The ITO will not notch, it will not even multipath at all xD
Rafale is better than typhoon?
When someone sits within the range, and can hurl missiles at me but I can’t retaliate, that is okay?
the mechanics broken af again lad.
you can actively land, rearm then fly in circles hurling amraams or whatever ARH you choose out with absolutely no contention.
It’s not a functional mechanic.
In GRB sure, easy days.
In ARB no, they do not break lock at all xD
It doesn’t at all, you’ve completely ignored the point of the person has a near 14km bubble to sit within and fire at you, whilst you cannot respond in kind.
They do not do it to bait, they do not properly engage, it’s not as if they actively try to bait us back.
That I wouldn’t mind. They do not even fire a missile off before just spinning around, even if one of us barely peels off.
I’m sorry but yet again
You are choosing to ignore
we want the AA to function while re arming , taking off etc. NOT to let it be used as a defensive bubble in which you are completely uncontested and cannot be touched for 14km
so yeah,
They aren’t thinking that’s the main problem they don’t have any meaningful impact on a match other than letting the game play for them.
This has been a constant issue with ARB for years now.