The Gepard-style AAA games are absolutely ridiculous and broken for the BR 8+

Oh we’re not going to skip over this, you’re going to answer lol

No backpedaling bud, own up to your mistake!

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Yo @BlueBeta, can you help out here? Som1 is just using statshame arguments and derailing the thread.

I barely play anti airs. That’s the simple answer but the amx 10p is incredibly good compared to other anti airs of similar brs again maybe you just don’t know how to aim it. And that’s fine.

Yet you’re so qualified to talk about them?

You figure that out in 7 games? Wow!

Gepard stabilized leopard 1 isn’t. Ofc the Gepard is more favored lmao

Again I don’t play anti airs. But yes its incredibly good if you just use 3 braincells

You’re just a troll who intentionally says things that you know are against the rules but are hidden behind enough doublespeak to where you can get away with it, and the mods here go along with it. I don’t care lmao I’ll be back after the temp mute to shame you

So you’re admitting you don’t know what you’re talking about?

I was talking about the stabilized leopards buddy

Can you read? I said I don’t play anti airs I personally don’t enjoy them. But it’s incredibly good

When people resort to stat-shaming, they have already lost the argument but their egos don’t want to admit they did.

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A 9.3 leopard 1 vs 8.3 anti air. That 8.3 bracket is way nicer to the leopard 1.
And the Gepard basically the only good German 8.0 area tank lmao

Pangolin does the same thing except instead of stat shaming he just says you’re bad at the game because he’s allowed to do that, but NOT use statistics to “prove” his point. You’re only “agreeing” with him because he happens to be on “your side” of the discussion. This is so plainly see through.

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And the anti air is the better of the two at being an MBT, crazy.

Because the anti air is at a better br. The 1a5 has brutal uptiers where it’s outclassed by everything and the regular leopard 1 is unstabilized at a br where alot of tanks are starting to get them

Buddy, read this carefully

If you uptier the Gepard to the 9.3 battle rating, it is a better main battle tank than the leopard 1a5 that sits at 9.3, in a direct comparison.

I would disagree with that completely lmao the 1a5 works much better then the Gepard at 9.3. idk why your so upset over the Gepard anyways

Good for you. You’re wrong.

Whatever you say

These have needed adjusting for a while, and while it would break some new ground, it wouldn’t require much.

  1. Harsh nerf on 35mm APHE’s explosive filler. Enough so that hitting a cupola or somehow Matrix’ing a round through the armor in a weird spot isn’t enough to kill off the tank’s crew.

This could be done by having an inverse of fuze sensitivity. If the round penetrates armor that’s too strong (Say 40mm effective?), the fuze is destroyed and the filler doesn’t detonate. This renders them still fairly scary against light vehicles, and on the flanks (Which they should be), but largely helpless against MBTs frontally.

  1. Rounds that richocet 3 times are currently set to just ignore armor, allowing them to phase into tanks. Instead, make them disappear, at least for 35mm and below. This would resolve a decent number of the Matrix’ing of rounds I mentioned earlier.

Still needs a more permanent fix for volumetric, but that’s out of scope for this.

  1. Fix the XM246’s nonsense damage model by making all plates and components produce spall when hit. The 246 has a ton of internal thin armor plates which block spall while not being thick enough to produce any when penetrated. This, along with the large FCS block in the middle, and the odd placement of the ammo in the far sides of the turret, mean that a lot of pentrating hits will end up achieving little to nothing.

This is a more systemic change (but hey, it might fix the exact same issue with the exact same cause for various Soviet autloading carousels eating spall without exploding), and it strictly optional.

  1. Replace the Leopard Marksman with the actual Itpsv 90, which was the same turret but on a T-55AM hull (Without the addon armor). Move the Leopard Marksman up to like 9.3 with the FAPDS belts or something.
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