Nah only the AV-8S late
The Harriers suffer from a far worse thing than wrong missiles lol
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F-15A/J at same BR has 9M/7M and certainly don’t have “worse” FMs even if they trade blows with F-14.
Giving 9M to F-14B does nothing but make it more fun and viable. It does not upset balance. Same with giving 9L to F-14A
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Yes. There is a 12.7 one too I think
How are either of these under br’d?
Brs for these? Also Aim-9ms ≠ R-73s, r-73s are less effective tbf
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forgot Baz (israeli F-15A)
all 13.0? that was the point…
incorrect
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I did
The Aim-7M just loses track and plummets for no reason. Along with this, the F-14B’s radar heavily limits it’s effectiveness (especially at range). This completely dismantles your argument. The Aim-7M isn’t even that good of a BVR missile on planes like the F-15A. So why would it be good on the worse plane??
It has the best F-16 flightmodel and Aim-9Ms. it can’t go to 12.7. So like the F-14s and other planes, it’s at 13.0. It’s not bad.
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The F-14 being fast with ARH would be significant if they weren’t the worst radar missile for BR. The harriers have aim-120s which not only are suited for slower speeds and close combat, but also lower range, so of course you’re not typically going to be BVRing with a Harrier with Aim-120s. The J8F has only 1 DL channel (to my knowledge) so TWS really wouldn’t be that helpful anyways. The PL-12s are still really good missiles. They’re like pre-2nd nerf Aim-120s. The mirage 4000 and F-16a have always been the polar opposite of the F-14B. They’re only good at CQC. This is how they are IRL and in WT. They don’t HAVE BVR capabilities to lack. The JA37Di does have a bad RWR, FM, and CMs, but it also has Aim-120s and is a premium jet. It’s probably the most comparable “bad aircraft” compared to the F-14B. Congrats. You found a singular plane that’s somewhat as bad as the F-14B at 13.0.
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That’s 3… And the F-14B shouldn’t even count because we’re asking for examples besides the F-14B. Desperate much?
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Having used both aim-9ms and R-73s, I can definitely say the AIM-9M is far more effective
They’re both effective at their own thing. R-73s are fitted towards more on an aggressive playstyle (normally near the ground) while Aim-9Ms are fitted towards a more relaxed playstyle (normally up high)
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I’ve been using my F-15E like I would my Su-27, radar off sneak attacks, but since the aim-9m is not only smokeless, but harder to flare, unless I’m super far, its a guaranteed hit.
Having used both missiles… they are both IRCCM missiles and are both well and beyond the effectiveness of any non-IRCCM missile. On top of this, R-73 is FAR better in close range encounters with 9M being better in modes other than ARB and in ARB being better at longer range shots.
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Fair. I just like the R-73 because you can essentially punch people with a last-second R-73 and they never expect it (not likey they can do anything anyways). Oh and in dogfights you can simply just whip the nose around and as long as they aren’t preflaring it’s an easy kill.
Seems somebody really disliked my opinion :'(
Did I need to propose ‘we need to buff F-14 down to 12.0 and let conquer everything again’ on here…?
I love Tomcat outside of WT, and have mixed feelings about Tomcat inside WT due to experiences against them.
I want them to deserve better than now, Yes. she deserved to better.
but also worry about balancing because I don’t want to see what happened when ‘F-14A was drastically underrated’ all over again. :(
That was one of the reasons why I claimed decompressing is essential for saving F-14.
in the current 14.0 ceiling, we can’t treat them properly.
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No you were good bro. Ruskie is (I have no proof so allegedly) just spam-reporting everything.
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Tbf theyve been powercrept a lot. So even with the buffs wouldn’t be nearly as bad as they used to be
Of the R-73 is great for turn fights, no doubt about that. But if they preflare, you can forget it.
At least with Aim-9ms you have a decent chance to nail them between cms.
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Mirage 2000 S4 is 12.7 with 4 aams. And good radar.
The F-14B has a very similar turn rate to a dorito. The F-14B has what, 4 aim-9Ls and 4 aim-54s or better?
With x480 cms or greater, I hate to say it, but for it being 13.0, it sounds like it may be a skill issue.
F-14B still need GEN-X decoys