the redditors have seethed for years as if the aircraft was never nerfed; as if it still tanked skyflashes strongly enough to keep flying normally, as if the guns werent’ nerfed, as if the sensitivity of the aim9e’s was the same as four years ago.
The plane was already a bummer at 10.3, and people kept dying to it because they thought doing a 180 against the first enemy they see is the best thing.
The F-5C is slightly better than the E in the one circle, but it works as an ascending spiral, which is just missile candy for your teammate phantoms. 2 circle don’t get interrupted, they simply don’t happen because the same way you can run away from a zero on a spitfire you can run away from an f-5c on a mig19.
The F-5C WAS competitive back then when the m39s were so good that literally staying within 2.5km of the f-5’s nose authority area was a death sentence. Now after this update they pack a punch but are completely useless beyond 800m and that is during slow speed dogfights where the shells don’t suffer drag.
@J_ackal
or else you still die to zeroes in rank 4 props. Because ever since 10.3 got flooded with mig23 ml’s and j35xs’s that not only rinse your cheeks in a dogfight but also outpace you by 340kmh faster on the deck because they have true engines, the f-5c stopped being relevant solely because it’s only advantage being outrating mig21’s at mach 0.98 is now negated. So even worse than the zero because nothing else can outdogfight the zero, while everything else that is not an attacker can outdogfight the f-5c; and if not, they can kill it with an irccm missile that completely ignores the flares being hotter than the engines. Which are cold because they provide no thermodynamic thrust at all.
Now the f-5c is at the same BR as the j7e, which not only has one of the best IR missiles in game (period), it’s practically undefeatable unless the pilot decides to 1v1 an f-16 block 10 in a custom battle with tournament rules.
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Your whining makes no sense dude
I promise you the 9.3s don’t think that. You can’t ruin an entire BR bracket and say it’s a “bummer”
Bro complaining because you’re like top 5 and not the absolute meta is so dumb
That’s because you can’t fly full burner in a straight line and dump 2 flares. Learn to dodge.
Brooooooo cmon really? That’s the hill you want to die on?
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But not 9.7s, right? So why isn’t it at 10.7? where it rightfully should be.
Every single of you guys keeps bringing up 9.3.
Even if the F-5C was unfair against 9.3, the decompression was going to fix that anyway.
9.3 remains where it was and the F-5C would go up to 10.7.
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while we are on the topic of nonsense changes, F4C went up to 10.7 lmao that is just brainrot change
it was already struggling before at 10.0 it should be 10.3 max now
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I was using that as an example, do you really think the F-5C is fair and balanced against G.91 YS, Hunter F.6, MiG-23BN, AV-8C, Jaguar GR.1 and Harrier GR.3?
Going to 10.7 would be a MAJOR downtier for the F-5C, an unfair one at that. It has always been the former 11.3s and now 12.0s that kept it in check. It has ALWAYS had to face those, removing that threat would be unfair and a clear bias in favor of the F-5C players who think they’re entitled to everything for some reason.
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I don’t think there are any planes in this table (except the viggens and j7e) that i would rather be in than a f5c. Every other plane thats shown here gets smoked by an f5c even if the pilots are of similair skill.
The only other planes that it would struggle against are the mig21s (if the opponent is better then you) ot the a5c (if the opponent is significantly better than you) but thats about it.
The reason i think so many people share the same thoughts about the f5c is because it is an objectively easy plane to fly. Yes you have limited engine power but when you get to the first merge you are up to speed anyway and you have to actively try to lose your energy and get in a bad situation in a f5c. In a mig21 you can easily overturn your aircraft and get cought without energy and with your pants down and so a lot of beginner pilots do.
The guns on the f5c are also one of the easiest to use in game being only beaten by vulcans adding to the hand helding the f5c does for you.
P.s. i forgot about the f8e. The f8e could also jump up to 11.0 in my opinion. It is slightly harder to use but has more potential in my eyes but gajin balances planes for the masses so i see why it stays at 10.7.
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f5c is now facing them more than it should and it got uptiered too high, its not equal to f5e
going to 10.7 would make f5c fair, full uptiers are supposed to be hard and planes below 10.0 werent raised so f5c bullying 9.3 has ended anyways
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my subsonic f86 facing a supersonic aircraft with a better turn rate at optimal speeds than me: (i also dont have flares and it has missiles, granted terrible but still missiles)
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Sooooo raise the F-5E? The F-5C should not, under ANY circumstances, be facing sub 10.0 planes. It faces all the same planes in an up tier the same amount. Idk what ur on abt it was 10.3 now 11.0 and a full up tier was 11.3 now 12.0. Same planes at 12.0 that were at 11.3.
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not all 11.3 went to 12.0, some went to 11.7 which makes them appear much more often and in higher amounts in the battles because its not a full uptier
the whole talk about f5c not facing 9.7 planes is BS and you are delusional
full uptier ALWAYS means you face something much better thats why there are only a few per battle
at 9.7 you have hunter, mig21’s, harriers, … all of which are perfectly capable of fighting f5c
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that would be a cool story if not for the fact that f86 couldnt face f5c even when it was 10.3
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its 9.0 lol, cl13 and f86 was 9.3 2 years ago bro
Beeeeecause they weren’t as good and had recently got nerfed.
Let’s not resort to ad hominem attacks because you can’t properly defend an argument ;)
I want you to fight a F-5C in a hunter and get back to me on how it goes lmao
You can’t be insanely OP and now you’re angry about it, womp womp.
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Prove it.
Again with the ad hominem attacks. Read the forum rules. I’m going to tell you why though because you seem to not grasp what I’m talking about.
I know what is going on in this game. I had a PC account with rank 7 USA up to the F-5E, without premium. I had more matches than you in that account. I was forced to sell it during moving and decided to purchase an Xbox. It is a major difference in playstyle so I am still learning how to fly it and use the controller. Please do not insinuate I am not knowledgeable about the game and not able to discuss topics like this.
funny of you to talk about breaking the rules while admitting to breaking a major TOS one lmao
I cant prove 9.7 fighting f5c because 9.7 cant face f5c now lmao but I sure did fight f5c with no problem in my 9.7 mig21
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It’s not a TOS break because I no longer have access to the account. Again, please read the TOS and forum rules.
The MiG-21 is an easy kill if the F-5C pilot is competent. You have way more energy retention than it. Go vertical and then get guns on after you stall out and he is in a flat spin.
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lmao if you play mig21 correctly f5c cant use energy retention against you, only a fool would go into a sustained turn fight in a mig21
not being able to play the game anymore doesnt allow you to sell it, it is a TOS violation so you please read it ;) 3.6. The User shall not sell (or buy), rent, exchange, or give away an Account.
That is correct only a fool would get into a sustained the fight with a MiG-21. It’s not what I said though.