The F-4s should get nerfs in his armament, its so broken at 11.0/12.0

It’s objectively on the good side of average, with 4x 20mms and 8 missiles, but the F-4E is much better with the 7E2 and slats.

Compare them to like, any other 12.0s, F-4J UK is much worse, F-4M/K are quite worse, Tornado F.3 is a bit worse, same with other trees

Don’t agree

Quantity of missiles isn’t so important when quality is on the low end.

I do constantly.

This one could be lower

Yes, compression sucks

Incorrect, it’s superior overall.

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I agree with you, but my KD on my F-4EJ is very good compared to my other aircraft and I personally love it.

The f4e has been more or less the same since it got the dogfight aim7s.

Does great fighting stuff 4km+ alt. At low alt, other jets can take it on pretty well.

The only way the f4s/j would become viable at 12.3 is if they are given their extra flares (that are missing rn) bc how hot the f4s/j runs

?? the J-79s are cold engines

not in my experience

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everyone’s different I guess but I’ve had no problem flaring in the F-4J

The f4s engines feel hotter since the flares are fired up and away from the engines, something like the F4E fires its flares behind the engines making flaring easier

I have the British F-4J, it has the same flaring system and I’ve had 0 issues with it.

If its the premium one i’m so sorry for your loss and if you mean the tt ones those get the F4E flare system

??? It’s a very good aircraft

I said F-4J, the tech tree ones are the F-4M and F-4K

No nerfs/buffs are needed unless there is any unrealistic modeled stuff (submit your reports). Only decompression is required. Stop asking for nerfs against specific vehicles and ask for decompression instead.

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My man, we call it the f4 junk for a reason

I have over a 1 KD in it, that’s incredibly good for me. It has amazing flight performance, a good cannon, a good amount of flares. The reason it’s called the F-4J(unk) is because the F-4S and J are better at the same BR

F-4Junk is called that for a reason. It’s one of the least performing 12.0s and is directly and largely worse than the Phantoms it shares a BR with

Name what it does better than same BR vehicles

m61 is common, and usually doesn’t require a massively drag ridden gunpod

No, it’s because it’s a trash platform at 12.0.

Lowkey a skill issue :sob:

That’s an issue with the others being too low. We need decompression

Turning - Tornado’s, Harriers. More missiles - most things. Better CQC radar missiles - everything without 24Rs and 27Rs.

Fair

Well I’ve done quite well at it and I’m uh… a shingleberry pilot

I mean in comparison to the other Phantoms at its BR yeah it’s not as good. You still have a good enough radar, and the Skyflash is good enough to make it viable, and you have an objectively better gun. The 9G is also just the exact same missile as the 9H with slightly worse track rate which means FA in game. It’s worse, but I’d say it’s more average overall when you look at it on its own.

The plane is barely viable, and outshadowed by everything else at 12.0.