i don’t need to explain why
What F-4s are we talking about, what armaments need to be changed, why?
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what?
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what colour is you statshark
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the F-4E/J/EJ, they have 4/6 good radar missiles and good radar, and they’re at 11.0/12.0 and they’re broken.
F-4EJ
good radar missile
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I only have the EJ, and while it’s good it doesn’t need a nerf. Dodging AIM-7E is incredibly easy unless you’re in the perfect 6km launch window. Any less than that and it can’t turn in time, any more and it bleeds speed. Not to mention the radar is horrendously bad. The F-4E is well balanced at 11.3, it’s slightly better than the FRS.1 but not by much, the F-4J is a 12.3 aircraft, same with F-4S.
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12.0*
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What I meant by it was that it deserves 12.3*
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Maybe he meant they should be 12.3
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Well, even though AIM-7F/M acts as one of the best SARH missiles in this game (damn these R-27ER)
And F-4J/S (USN) acts superior to counterparts in 12.0
I am unsure that we can nerf them to 12.3
Especially when Gaijin decided to send F-18A to 12.3 :/
Those bastards are annoying on downtier. But compression and napalm-bombers-with-no-missiles keep them safe from Nerf.
In the meantime, there is some other thread about ‘buff F-4J to 11.7’ :/
You kinda do have to explain the crazy ass take
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F-4EJ is mediocre for 11.0.
F-4E is great at 11.3 but its not overpowered, it has pretty large flaws and pretty isn’t overwhelmingly powerful in any regard.
F-4S is the strongest 12.0 but not by a massive amount and it has very exploitable flaws
F-4J is just F-4S but worse
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In no way does this make sense under current compression
It’s objectively on the good side of average, with 4x 20mms and 8 missiles, but the F-4E is much better with the 7E2 and slats.
Compare them to like, any other 12.0s, F-4J UK is much worse, F-4M/K are quite worse, Tornado F.3 is a bit worse, same with other trees
Don’t agree
Quantity of missiles isn’t so important when quality is on the low end.
I do constantly.
This one could be lower
Yes, compression sucks
Incorrect, it’s superior overall.
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I agree with you, but my KD on my F-4EJ is very good compared to my other aircraft and I personally love it.
The f4e has been more or less the same since it got the dogfight aim7s.
Does great fighting stuff 4km+ alt. At low alt, other jets can take it on pretty well.
The only way the f4s/j would become viable at 12.3 is if they are given their extra flares (that are missing rn) bc how hot the f4s/j runs
?? the J-79s are cold engines