Frankly it really is a tricky question, Block 10 and below F-16s are strong one-trick ponies, you take their subsonic agility and its an IR slinger in a BR where 3rd gen jets already have a reliable BVR capability.
That makes them weaker than those 3rd gen? In other times, I’d say no categorically. The falcon is still a stupidly good plane for the furball meta in my opinion. Now I just say no, but it still remains to be seen how much it is really underperforming on average.
And that’s what happens when planes are judged in a vacuum, it ends up being a problematic discussion where common sense tells you 12.3 is already a strong BR for the F-16s, but whenever the stat argument is dragged on the table and you realize its not only the US, but also the Netz and the dutch analogues, you only then realize the magnitude and consequences of compression.
And when Gaijin announces BR changes, they deliberately ignore the premium Su-30s and the bump of top tier to 15.0, and instead they go for compression, as they know they still can monetize their flankers thoroughly for another couple months if they keep them at a br where they can still dominate if played barely right smh.
Nah it has no lprf/pulse mode so if someone goes side one radar immediately goes to mem track and loses lock.
Plus the missiles have very limited relock capability
Hmd on big 29 is so nice plus it has mem/irst which helps keep lock on
Recently was spading the mig29n and r-27r was basically useless, while r27er is a monster missile.
Flying the f-15a and then mig-29 after is complete night and day
here u have ur goddamn heavier F-15E climbing from sea level to 16.490m at Mach 1.25 in less than 2mins, made by your favorite host, Flanker_Thunder!
then give Su-30SM2 it’s respective CM pods and MAW as it should be too.
this is a joke, right?
Eurofighter is more modern than any F-15. it’s lighter, has more thrust, has different wing-type, it has better radar and RWR… it’s OBVIOUSLY better than the F-15 in any way.
this is a joke too, right?
one time i launched a R-27ER to a F-15E at ~15km and it was able of outrunning it, and R-27ER is made to hit targets over 100km thx to the INSANE thrust and top speed and amazing maneuverability.
bro absolutely doesn’t know what’s playing with F/A-18C Late at 14.0 with Mach 1 as max top speed and huge energy bleeding.
sure, USA also shouldn’t get more jets, cuz they have one the best aircraft ingame that dominated back then when Fox-3s where a novelty and where merely present in each nation, u weren’t able of flying a german MiG-29G or a british Tornado without getting smacked by an AMRAAM coming from stratosphere.
which are copy-paste russian tanks which suck.
i’m pretty sure there’s a good reason to why Russia isn’t getting “ukrainian” vehicles…
from what u’re saying, it sounds like u want.
just grow up, bro, play the F-15 for fun and not cuz u want to have a good plane, if u want a good one u can go for Su-30SM2 or the mighty Eurofighter u’re complaining about, i can make u sure that it’s not too different from F-15.
dw mate, soon u will get F-22 beating up old Su-30SM2 and Eurofighters cuz USA mains will be complaining about it fighting Su-57 which is “superior cuz it’s russian” in their minds.
the F15A’s huge leap in K/D and Win rate shows how it’s too good to be 12.7 lol
the mig29 radar is quite literally worse than the F15A radar lol, it’s not debatable it’s only advantage over F15A is the 2 R27ERs. In which it’s both extremely limited in use as well as have to manage the radar lock.
the 15A while having worse SARH missiles has 4 x Aim9m which you and I both know make R60Ms completely obsolete.
Hell 9L blows them out the water in most uses.
Yeah but those r27ers are basically free kills while sparrows are some abysmal garbage.
Plus having radar auto switch to irst instead of losing lock + relock capability of r27er makes it super potent
against 4 aim9ms which are effectively 4 free kills?
Not at all, the HMD was brought up earlier? or am I mixing two threads together.
The HMD on the Mig29 is more of a gimick than anything else but it is an advantage.
What should happen with the mig29 is lose the R27ERs which it never used, and actually get the R73s which it did use.
Sparrows are not abysmal garbage lol, they’re not as good as R27ERs which no SARH actually is.
But they are not bad at all.
They are middling missiles.
it very much is not, it almost completely alleviates the radar issues you were complaining about earlier
they are horribly inconsistent on how well they track a target, and often just decide to stop tracking from the smallest maneuvers
as well as being extremely easy to evade even in perfect launch conditions
its almost like they are pretty bad missiles for the br
you clearly dont understand those graphs, because that climb shown above is a single data point
and as makes since the February data did continue to climb because the earlier data point consisted of an average of pre br change and post br change data
THis is logical. I don’t necessarily agree with every point of yours that I have been reading, but this is very much true. The F-15A is among the strongest 12.7s, but absolutely among the more mid 13.0s. It doesn’t fit at either BR (Su-33 compared to F-15A? Su-33 wins every day. compared to MiG-29? The F-15 should be top dog)
I will say that the 9Ms are very positional; in a full downtier, usually 2 kills if you can catch people off guard. In a full uptier, mostly a waste of space. Most of the kills I have gotten as of recently have been either gun or 7Ms, and even then Im generally using the 7Ms within roughly IR missile range (~4km)
Icl I played f-15 and mig-29 recently and I vastly preferred the mig cause of the convenience of hmd and r27er. You really missing out when you don’t have those free kill sticks imo
I’ve been calling it for some threads now, the only thing Pigeon has only ever conceded on the F-15A/J/Baz as a weakness was its missile count at 13.0 (while at 12.7 is already a strong kit in numbers, it still heavily relies on its unreliable radar).
He’s been incapable to admit that the radar is really subpar, while even other players (which has been openly more critical of the plane without even playing it) have already made openings on the thought that maybe the plane isn’t as OP as they thought.
One of the big problems of the F-15A/J/Baz is that you end up fighting more with its radar than against your actual enemies, simple as.
