The F-15’s Current Performance in War Thunder Feels Incorrect and Unfair

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Sadly people have tried same for the flight model Its good enough so gaijin just doesn’t plan on fixing it essentially which sucks heavily, shares the same problem as the mig29 and su27 flight models 2 years ago.

i think large open ocean maps would help toptier by making it easier to multipath as some planes do rely on it

Imagine how bad it feels to play the Su-34 right now…

It’s in the same situation, but with worse maneuverability, worse top speed, no HMS, worse missile.

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To put this into perspective the al-31f/p on su27 and su30mk2(and sm), looses only 6.7% of thrust, and for the love of good the number is just a coincidence.

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whilst i agree, the su34 is even more specialized for ground strike than the f15e/ex

I mean, kind of, the KH-38MT’s need to be removed, because they aren’t real. The built in system doesn’t use thermals, so it puts you at a disadvantage already. (Not to mention historically GLONASS is absolute rubbish and barely works half the time compared to other GNSS)

But it really is lacking in air combat.

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Side note the F 15 c lost a QRA from wheels on tarmac to 360 (36000ft)to an EE lightning in Germany. It could never out climb the lightning. It lost against the Indian mig 21 Bison 9-0 in the air combat where the F 15 pilot said we were out flown . Only pilot testimonial should be used not notes and manuals created to sell aircraft. British flight manuals use facts not exaggerated figures like the Russians and American’s use.

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thing is that
this is base on the very basic calculation on the intake size and how channel loss works
its quite basic
but gaijin dont take basic calculation or any common sense
they need documents
and well there isnt documents about actual thrust of f15 is there

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yeah because it’s… meant to be like that?
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it still fairly closely matches performance charts for its acceleration (at least for 15a) - likely the drag is much too low and the engine is much too weak.
courtesy of squishface
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I’m not contesting that it’s low on the al31fp, I’m pointing out that the f15 is very much unusually high.

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You mean like this from NASA?

or this?

(don’t put these into AI, you will not like the answer)

… Wild that you cannot see what you just said. Please learn about propaganda.

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“Hullo im former eurofighter pilot with over 600 confirmed kills and eurofighter should pull 800Gs and reach mach 69 in level flight gujin pls fix”

completly flawless plan.

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Maybe if it was the mig-21-93 with the pesa radar that would make sense…
But the mig-21 the Indians got are stuck with a trash kopoyo radar that has horrendous range. I doubt this is true lol.
F-15a from the 70s has better range than this thing

radar specs

That was also one of my questions — how exactly does War Thunder measure thrust? Because if you look up the numbers publicly — including sources like Wikipedia — the thrust values are consistent, yet the in-game stat card shows something else. So I was wondering whether the thrust shown in War Thunder is static thrust, thrust at a specific altitude, thrust while moving, or something reduced for balancing. I might be mistaken on the technical part, but that was the core of what I meant: how is the thrust being calculated in-game compared to the expected real-world figures?

Right now, that’s technically true, but with the next update the Eurofighter (at least for Germany) is getting the option to carry more missiles — up to ten — whereas the F-15C/Golden Eagle has several real images of it carrying more missiles, yet doesn’t receive that loadout in-game. I’m not saying the F-15 should dominate BVR, but when you’re a 14.3 BR aircraft and the main difference from the 13.7 F-15 is just slightly improved missiles, radar, and countermeasures, it raises the question of whether the higher BR is justified without any additional capability.

thrust for x ray view is shown as installed, 0 speed and 0 altitude max installed thrust

Worst win rate of all us rank 8 aircraft.

Only 253k players which is absolutely pathetic for a new us top tier.

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its not even a quarter of the F-15E player base either, its even lower down in player numbers than the F-18