it still fairly closely matches performance charts for its acceleration (at least for 15a) - likely the drag is much too low and the engine is much too weak.
courtesy of squishface
I’m not contesting that it’s low on the al31fp, I’m pointing out that the f15 is very much unusually high.
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You mean like this from NASA?
or this?
(don’t put these into AI, you will not like the answer)
… Wild that you cannot see what you just said. Please learn about propaganda.
“Hullo im former eurofighter pilot with over 600 confirmed kills and eurofighter should pull 800Gs and reach mach 69 in level flight gujin pls fix”
completly flawless plan.
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Maybe if it was the mig-21-93 with the pesa radar that would make sense…
But the mig-21 the Indians got are stuck with a trash kopoyo radar that has horrendous range. I doubt this is true lol.
F-15a from the 70s has better range than this thing
That was also one of my questions — how exactly does War Thunder measure thrust? Because if you look up the numbers publicly — including sources like Wikipedia — the thrust values are consistent, yet the in-game stat card shows something else. So I was wondering whether the thrust shown in War Thunder is static thrust, thrust at a specific altitude, thrust while moving, or something reduced for balancing. I might be mistaken on the technical part, but that was the core of what I meant: how is the thrust being calculated in-game compared to the expected real-world figures?
Right now, that’s technically true, but with the next update the Eurofighter (at least for Germany) is getting the option to carry more missiles — up to ten — whereas the F-15C/Golden Eagle has several real images of it carrying more missiles, yet doesn’t receive that loadout in-game. I’m not saying the F-15 should dominate BVR, but when you’re a 14.3 BR aircraft and the main difference from the 13.7 F-15 is just slightly improved missiles, radar, and countermeasures, it raises the question of whether the higher BR is justified without any additional capability.
thrust for x ray view is shown as installed, 0 speed and 0 altitude max installed thrust
Worst win rate of all us rank 8 aircraft.
Only 253k players which is absolutely pathetic for a new us top tier.
its not even a quarter of the F-15E player base either, its even lower down in player numbers than the F-18
to be fair only thing it has is the AESA GIMMICK and its cool skins F15E is miles better
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what are the slightly improved missiles again? last time i checked the A/B is often more viable than the c-5 in basically every situation inside of 30km
Yes but it’s not that simple at all.
first, they were expecting some modern fighter… and that was not the case.
Instead …
They flied without AWACS. MiGs had an Il-76 AWACS with them.
They exploited the size difference , the F-15 was visible 20km from them .
The MiGs use Elbit jammer (EL/L8222 i think) , which is very modern and yes can hinter the BVR potential of F-15s , plus the fact MiG 21 is already small enough in the radar a combination that made them near stealth for F-15s.
A pilot , Cammander Nayani , said it was basic pilot errors from the US as well… MiG 21 was visibl near them, they were still stuck on radar searches and not use their eyes. And that’s FATAL. (outflown).
Whne they MiG close in they ^shot^ R-73 in the merge exploiting their AoA against the heavier F-15s (in a prolonged fight F-15s would win) .
We don’t know if the F-15s had ^bags^ as well. Because no…you don’t just drop ^bags^ or even leave them back since the mechanics don’t like it…
Also , that’s assymetrical /dissimilar combat… in many cases they follow a patern or even make intentional mistakes to see what happens and not make them in combat.
Also , MiG 21 Bisons may were old aiframes, but they deployed modern equipment. And that’s what i’m always saying… After a point it’s what weapons and equipment you have in the plane , airframe is like …1/3 factors. And ofc pilot errors are pilot errors. Doesn’t make a plane bad.
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gimmick is a good word it works now because its the only one which can take proper advantage of it and people dont know it even exist.