The F-14A is severely over-tiered at 12.7

ARH is so powerful though that many refuses better treatment. I meant no BR change, give it 9M and stay 13.0, 9L at 12.7 isn’t insane either. I mean we already have 4 AMRAAM + 4 9M at 13.0.

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The same can be said for tons of vehicles in this game. The BR brackets only have so much granularity. Two planes can be fairly placed at the same BR despite one being weaker than the other. Arguably though it was always a sick joke that the F-15A was downtiered to its current location in the first place, and if anything it should be going up rather than the tomcat going down.

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That’s not really a fair comparison. The F-14 wouldn’t be overpowered if it were moved down, unlike the F-86 and Mig-15/17, because rank 7/8 jets rely on missiles far more than flight performance.

There would still be many ways to kill the F-14 rather easily, especially if it gets close. Planes like the Phantom carry the same Fox-1s, and there’s many planes with powerful IR missiles, both front and rear aspect, that would serve as hard counters.

Although I agree that decompressing rank 7.0+ (and buffing the Aim-54s ffs) is the best solution, moving it down wouldn’t make it overpowered.

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With all this said, as true as it is, it would not upset balance to give the F-14B the AIM-9M which would mostly even the playing field.

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BRUH, mine doesnt work anymore

nah mine broke today after re-checking again too

W take i believe it just needs more flares 60 is not enough for those TF-30s

Maybe F-14A (USN) might not be overpowered in the broken level after sending it down to 12.3
(unlike these shameless Sabre gangs do.)

But,

  1. It will lead to nothing more than further compression
  2. Even though missile specs can be more important than flight performance in rank 7/8, some gaps can’t be sealed with missile specs. For example, between the 3rd and 4th generations.

Lastly, thanks for agreeing that decomp will be the best option.
After decompression, maybe F-14A/B can find somewhere better place to sit without breaking the lobby again.

F-14A when it was 11.3 was nothing but a joke. :/

French pay taxes for being good, and Gaijin’s compression will never stop even though the community wants to.

As a joke with no honest, if France bought F-14A and armed with Magic 1 and R.511/530, it might be hit higher BR than F-14A from USN. :P
Of course, no countermeasures on the French version.

lol you get used to it, i think it forces you to compensate and play smarter (as long as an av8 isnt looking at you with those dreadful missiles…)

Or Harrier GR1 with none and AV-8A with 240

Meh he is just a wikibuser anyone can do that just look at any twitch or reddit mod post exact same writing style and he even allways argues as an oppositionist exactly like them

It wasn’t a joke, they knew exactly what they were doing. It was a scummy cashgrab bc topgun.

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and now everyone hates it cause tomcat dominated like IRL unfortunately almost impossible to get buffs
An F-14 Tomcat from VF-1 'Wolfpack' flies a Combat Air Patrol over ...
this it in vietnam btw pretty sure the configuration is roughly similar to what it would have had in vietnam in game btw

only buff it need right now is more counter measures as its a very hot plane because of the TF30 engines
which makes it hard to flare 60 CM is not enough especially considering there all small countermeasures

The engines arent the problem. its how the game handles IR signatures. its entirely based upon thrust. The F-14 also may have some unknown variable that makes it rather hot, but you also have other really hot aircraft like all the Harriers which dont even have AB but are genereally considered the “hottest” aircraft in game.

Also, they have standard calibre flares. which are identical accross all aircraft.

You do also get large calibre which is semi common around that BR but you also have BOL which are modeled to be (ahistorically) nano-CMs. But thats all the types of CMs in game at the moment

If it can get more CMs then it should, and that will need a report, but otherwise, there isnt much that can be done for the F-14A.

Ultimately the F-14s biggest issue is one of compression, it cannot go down with ARH due to the lack of performance in those below (and the poor performance of most in premium aircraft) and bad map design, the valley of death style of ARB is the perfect killing field for it. Wider maps would help mitigate the performance of all ARH missiles.

funnily enough you report anything on F-14A it gets shelfed same with B the devs dislike the plane dont know why

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That’s pretty common with American vehicles. Harrier, F-100, Phantom, Abrams, HSTV-L, F4D-1, M901, F-84F, F-104, etc.

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I think its NATO vehicles.

Most British vehicles have major outstanding bug reports. Inlcuding a few id consider game breakers

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China suffers quite a bit from incorrect modelling/lack of care put towards vehicles(ztz99 spall liners for example). It unfortunately isn’t just a nato thing.

Non-soviet then?

At least they always seem to have the fewest issues