still better than the 11.7 sams
Did you read the post?
3rd and 4th point
Can you at least explain why having 3 vehicles means it doesn’t count?
Nah, we complain about things that are legitimately wrong and/or broken :)
The vehicle itself is quite wrong at the moment (even completely broken for some players).
The missile i do not know enough about to have an opinion and the radar has been reported and accepted to some degree at least.
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Because otherwise the argument is self defeating lol
You’ve a few chances to lose a launch platform before you’re knocked out, unlike the Elde.
Would point you to above screencap for that one.
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for the 3rd point, you are the only new aa that gets smokes iirc and its way easier to hide/reposition 1 system instead of 2/3
for the 4th, current top spaa is perfectly fine lol
and ofc its the dev so everything thats broken will be fixed ig
7 nations are still waiting for counterparts to the Strv 122s, so top tier ground sweden can wait an update for counterparts for other vehicles.
Ideally, seeing as overall 12.0 CAS isn’t super powerful, the EldE 98 would stay at 12.0 while the Pantsir, SLM, Slamraam, Type 81 (ARH) and fixed CS/SA5 get moved to 12.3.
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god forbid sweden doesnt get the best x vehicle in an update
i think they should get the italy treatment
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To be fair Sweden is by far the best minor nation and is basically years in front of some other ones.
It was like the best ground nation in the game for years.
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Unless that’s confirmed its an entirely moot point. Having only 10km of range and it realistically only getting as far as 8km means you cant do anything with it when other systems are present. Additionally given the lack of range and missiles every other sam can deal with munitions launched on them, the EldE cant reload in time to stop an Su-34 that is focusing on it. As much as id like to agree with you here youve blatantly ignored basic game logic and the average scenario, depending on the map the EldE might be safe but as a jet I will always be able to rearm much safer than any SPAA and i will be able to constantly sling missiles far outside the EldE’s range and too mamy for it to counter within reload rate. Smokes only replenish on a cap point and ive abused CAS enough to know how SPAA players handle things. Maybe itll survive the first encounter but after that unless their team is winning good luck dodging all my KH-38MT’s again now that you’re low on everything.
You want my opinion? I don’t want the EldE, i think its a useless addition being added to give gaijin an excuse to ignore adding a useful spaa to sweden. Its an addition that could’ve been ignored in place of a few other options which fit more closely to the current list of SPAA. Im sure people will be like why would you rather want nothing, simple i dont want a 400k waste of space and RP on the TT unless it has some form of relevance. Id like a air tree thats on par with other nations, unfortunate sweden gets 3 of the 2nd best leopards and that means they cant have anything else. Idc about the leos, if we didn’t have them i couldn’t care less, im a light tank enjoyer. The EldE is simply a waste of space and time imo for an SPAA thats equivalent to bringing a Stinger to 12.0 in terms of range
I would feel bad if we weren’t talking about top tier ground for Sweden. They have been used to getting first row treatment for top tier ground for other vehicles, so I don’t mind them taking the back seat for an update.
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I dont care about top tier ground unless its a light tank or 10.x spaa from Finland, id like 7.x and 8.x to get something since they had their lineups decimated, i additionally 4.x could use anything but overtiered tank destroyers but ive been told sweden is OP at every BR and they are the best nation for everything so i dont really talk about them since i get into arguments that is just me talking to brick walls because people who have never touched the nation let alone more than one nation know more than i do but whatever l.
This comment isn’t really directed at you but i have more gripes with mid and early tier sweden which imo if they were the focus for a year i would love far more than top tier.
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It’s literally just Germany. It’s nothing but Leopards and a VT-1 rocket, with an okay CAS plane. Nothing special, just a reskinned Germany.
*Germany but with short barrel leopards because they didn’t want to give us the trialed long barrel leopard
It was only recently we got a decent round for the 122s, and it is still notably worse than Germany
ahh !!yes 2.60 Mach missile going to say hi to my tank while im on 9 streak and trying to carry game
That’s the thing, you can literally play any nation and be a better Sweden.
France: Leopard 2A6, CVs, and ItO
Germany: Leopard 2A6 and PSO, FlaRakRad for same missiles. Low tier is Panzers, BF-109, Ju-88. Also a slightly better Gepard.
Italy: Leopard, Apache, and Grippen
Britain: Centurion, Comet, and Vampire. Low tier is Gladiator.
Russia: all T-series tanks and MiG 21bis.
The only thing Sweden has for itself is the BILL (literally just TOW launcher for China), Drakken (terrible planes anyways), Viggen (better off using Mirage III), and some low tier tanks.
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Further testing, this thing is useless. Half the time planes come in from an angle that doesn’t show up on radar, which means you can’t target it with the IRIS-T because apparently you require radar pings to slave the missile to. Which is further hindered by the fact the missile barely tracks targets that are on an approach path.
Italy has Mangusta, not Apache
Boo hoo Sweden only has had the best Leopard 2s for 5 years. Gaijin really hates Sweden because they didn’t want to give them the 1 good thing that German Leo 2s were better at.
Depends what you consider recently. They gave the Strv 122s m/95 3 years ago in 2022.
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