I don’t want to jump into a debate i’m no part of, but it certainly feels worth acknowledging that Ka-52 (And by extension Mi28NM) have a much easier ride than just about every other countries stuff in this particular regard, simply by virtue of them permanantly existing on the Pantsir team.
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All top missile SPAA in the game use missiles that far exceed helicopter ranges.
Eh… Israel, Italy and Japan have nothing. UK & US have an exact range match with Vikhr, All Kamov / Havoc really have to worry about is the three VT1 slingers (Two of which are in less played nations, the one of which in the popular nation has the god awful roland turret Ka52 can easily out-trade in the proxy joust and beat on the reload)… and besides that just TOR who is usually on Russia’s team too.
And anybody who has played top tier in recent times knows that BLUFOR hardly ever has top AA on the team, because half the team are one death leaving clickbaits & AIMS, whereas REDFOR has multiple people spawn Pantsirs every match.
I’m not trying to diminish the points you are making in regards to the raw capabilities of Kamov vs its peers, but the threat environment is incomparable. I have games in Saraph / Teapache where i literally get blown up by Pantsirs before i’ve even gotten the collective up lmao. Can’t say i’ve experienced that in Ka52 lol.
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I mean… we’re all talking as if helicopters can do anything against us as-is when they can’t.
Basic onion layer implementation prevents us from even being seen by helicopters let alone engaged.
It’s why I can tell you the exact story of the last time I mutually engaged a helicopter as a tank, cause it happens about once a year at this point.
Praising Mokopa and SPIKE is great, but my tactics prevent even them from fragging me.
As someone who helplessly watches Vikhrs hurtle towards my Chapparal every match, i’d be interested to hear what that entails lol.
LOL completely total BS
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Being near buildings, foliage, rocks, dead/static tanks.
Pretty much the last time I was engaged by a helicopter was a Ka-50 on Mozdok cause I was out in the open, and I warned my team of their presence 20 seconds prior to their first missile launch on my tank.
Took them 3+ Vikhrs to frag me cause I kept my front armor toward them, then in my respawn I fragged them with a proxy round.
@ARK_BOI
If the Rooivalk had the Soviet flag in its statcard you’d call it OP.
That RU heli pilot must have skills issues rooivalk? OP? lol don’t make me laugh even it in soviet TT it not gonna be
It not bad heli but still can’t compare with KA-52 (it took FnF heli that some what better than them)it more like A129 with MAW and a little better hellfire
Right… definitely had NOTHING to do with the fact this is all they could see from 7km away:
Can’t hit the roof, and spotting the breach with the mk1 eyeball from 7km is hard.
lol i play heli like thousands times and i can tell you that there is no ways heli can see this angle it because in heli FOV it will be always higher than tanks “Always!!” not often or usually it ALWAYS!!
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Maps aren’t flat, especially Mozdok. That is all they could see, because I was on one of the couple dozen hills on the map.
Arguing with this person is like playing chess with a pigeon. Just ignore him.
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This isn’t a gotcha moment like you think it is.
The time Salvos are useful is when guaranteeing a kill or going for multiple targets. If you fire 3 agms to a single target, you’re doing something wrong. But guess what the Vikhr can fire two shot salvo. The issue with going for multiple targets is that you will be in the open for a considerably longer time. That is risky.
The hellfire (and other similar agms) is a good agm IF it hits. That is why it sucks. Its not the damage its the uncertainty of getting a hit.
Again you’re still glossing over what makes the Vikhr so good. It’s a beam riding missile. If the Vikhr wasn’t beam riding guess what, it would suck though it will still be better than the hellfire because of engine performance
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@HondaCivici
You responded to the wrong post, there’s no such thing as “gotcha” in my life, only direct statements and sincerity.
Anything else is a waste of time.
Beam riding isn’t the best and never will be just cause it’s your preference.
Preferences =/= fact.
I didn’t respond to the wrong post. At this point it looks like you’re trolling
Don’t take any offense to this, but is English your first language?
While I’ve been either countering or providing an argument you have not provided any counter points. I’ve seen you do this through out the forum. You talk as if you’re an authoritative source. You’re not and so long as you counter with one liners and no logical arguments. not me or anyone will take you seriously.
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As much as I agree with you, he has big voice in the forums. So for ever misinformation he spreads, he needs to be called out for it so that everyone is aware for the type of person he is.
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Its booster and warhead are not as good as Kh-38M, I can’t imagine when SU-34 carries 6*Kh-38M and remove 6 guys in 1 minute.
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Big voice? No, he simply just doesn’t know how to shut his yap and quit moving his fingers. His influence " in the forums is as overinflated as his ego.
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@HondaCivici
Once again, that’d be a waste of time. I am an autistic dude, and my biggest pet peeve that’s still something I heavily dislike is wasting time.
Also the fact you claim that I post misinformation, when most of my information comes from manuals, Defyn, Tim’s Variety, and hundreds of other experts. Your post is accusing thousands of people of posting misinformation by extension.
@GNDM_Panzer accusing Americans that criticize Russian military equipment of being Russian shills. Obvious provocation is obvious.
It’s funny how his post states exclusively the opposite of what I am and do, which is obvious provocations.
GNDM’s post makes it look like he wants to silence all Americans…
Look at all this declassified “misinformation” from NATO countries:
