No matter how much Britain tax they apply to the CAMM or CAMM-ER. It will still be better than the ADATS
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The spyder is considerably more annoying to use than the CS/SA5, which imo makes the spyder worse
I agree without a doubt that the SYPDER, Type 81 (C) Tan-Sam and EdlE 98 are all overall worse vehicles than the CS/SA5 and that’s why I called the vehicle mid instead of outright bad as that’d be factually wrong. My main argument was that specifically for surface to air engagements it could be arguably worse depending on perspective which is true.
The SYPDER overall is also a disappointment and I do feel remorse for my Israeli mains out there.
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my longest kill was 17 km against a drone and 16 km against a jet
plus ahead actually works well against agm and kh38 which saved my ass most of the time you just have to lead it properly
also why are you not using your smoke grenades ? they are good at spoofing agm
ive never had a better time playing the thing and being able to kill helis trying to hide behind cover because it loft and lands above their heads
makes the ka52 look bad
to be truly honest ive played the spyder and yeah its by far worse than the cs sa5
the only good thing about it is that the p5 is smokeless and good at killing heli if the radar lets me lock on them
the derby is absolute garbage
everyone can see you when your radar is up most of the time i died because someone shot HE or HEAT on the radar and i end up getting overpressured
The radar is garbage even if its supposed to be an aesa radar and you get a lot of ghost contacts
p5 lacks maneuverability and has a wiggle problem that literally makes it unable to reach mach 2
its really bad
Dont diss ADATS like that
plus ahead actually works well against agm and kh38 which saved my ass most of the time
AHEAD from my understanding shoots out in a sphere instead of a cone which can be positive and negative (less concentrated shrapnel if actually modelled) and doesn’t work when firing at a target going cold aspect. The CS/SA5 only has a single belt as well so if you do decide to being AHEAD with you then you have no chance for self defence against ground units as you obviously can’t mix multiple ammunition choices (which is unfortunate).
TDLR; you sacrifice your defence against ground units just for the ability to intercept munition
also why are you not using your smoke grenades ? they are good at spoofing agm
In the clip I uploaded there were like 5 different aircraft up and I used all my smoke grenades already to evade Spikes fired from a helicopter, I already know how effective they can be as defence against aerial bandits.
ive never had a better time playing the thing and being able to kill helis trying to hide behind cover because it loft and lands above their heads makes the ka52 look bad
Mostly luck, the FB-10/A can’t switch between DL+IOG and Tracking (IR guidance) iirc properly so if you do kill something behind cover then it’s most likely was a IOG kill. There are some few instances were the missiles does switch to Tracking IR but this isn’t something I checked in replays but just a feeling.
I have a friend who mains Israel and recently unlocked the SYPDER (literally 6 hours ago) and has been enjoying it thus far albeit with some issues with in-game audio and bugs, he even managed to get a 25km kill against a cooperating target which is impressive, the CS/SA5 would never dream of such a thing (especially as the radar only locks at around 21km).
lucky him
nope it was an ir track at more than 4 km
my longest was 7 km and it was when the fb10a didnt have DL
what i would do is use the agm as a heat source to fire my missile since it would go faster that the seeker ability to track so i would get a temporary track and i just fire and let it do its thing
There is no point in lowering the combat rating. It is necessary to fix weak missiles, the hill after launch, the weak inaccurate gun, issue sub-caliber shells, etc. IRIS T is also broken, absolutely useless due to its size, broken missiles, the lack of implementation of matrix seekers in the game, the broken radar and many other reasons. Anyone who calls IRIS T the best SAM in the game and effective protection against CAS = an screw or is being dishonest.
All SPAAs are broken, radar is basically buns ever since the update was dropped and TWS is unbearable, that’s not even mentioning the fact that some SPAAs like the HQ-17 have a bug that makes it so after every couple seconds it automatically loses lock.
Gaijin and War Thunder has failed time and time again recently and this recent update is one of them, this was a update focused on premium slop and added more issues than it fixed - can we all mutually agree Gaijin is mostly at fault?
Honestly if you look at it
20G missiles, at 12.0, caged(so no LAV-AD stuff), barely 50 cal resistance, same speed as LAV
Given that the LAV has more(if no rocket) and same amount(with rocket), smaller profile but no radar at 2 whole BR lower and still is very viable at 12.0
yeah this thing needs to get move down tbh
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uncaged missile btw
Hey, sure - its just that if it was meant to be joke, it didnt come across like that and it wasnt really obvious (seeing as some people make answers like that unironically).
But humor is subjective, i guess.
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people finally waking up to how useless cannon based systems are against ordinance? the amount of times i stared in the face of a agm65 with the sgt york is insane.
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Dont worry, agm65 is also useless and free SL
But it is the best spaa
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radar is … lacking to say the least in general… tws without datalink genuinely works better than with datalink because the datalink enabled missiles keep switching to new targets (like bombs or missiles)
also still waiting for gaijin to actually turn these radars into ESA radars… the giraffe 1x and trml-4d for example are still mech scan
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The 30G overload capacity of the missile is indeed noteworthy. I am unsure of the source from which “gaijin” obtained this information, but I have compiled all available data from online resources. To date, only one news media outlet—though not an officially authoritative source—has reported on the overload capacity of the FB-10A, stating it to be at least 20G or higher.
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To be honest, the secretive nature of most Chinese vehicles acts as an excuse for gaijin to not make them good
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CS/SA5, Pantsir, EldE 98, Spyder, and Tan-SAM Kai should be 12.0.
CLAWS should be 12.3.
SLM and the other new SPAA should be 12.7 to start.
But apparently increasing the BR of new SPAA is “ragebait”.
Brother that debate was almost a entire month ago, are you still frustrated that most people would agree that the CS/SA5 is currently in a poor position? Going back to old messages out of frustration won’t help you in the long run lmao.
CS/SA5, Pantsir, EldE 98, Spyder, and Tan-SAM Kai can remain 12.0
Call it a hunch but I honestly don’t think the CS/SA5, Tan-SAM Kai and EldE 98 are on par with the Pantsir, that thing can easily be moved up to 12.3 and still be fine.
The fact Gaijin had the balls to introduce the Pantsir back in 2023 still puzzles me till this day
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