That wasn’t the official line by Smin? People are saying that Smin said subtrees are there to fill the gaps. I don’t have screenshots of him saying this, hence my question
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Hmm? Your post makes no sense since you quoted me not mentioning Smin; and you quoted me quoting “that shouldn’t be there” but don’t address that part of the quote…
“fill gaps that can’t be filled otherwise” =/= “fill gaps that shouldn’t be there”.
No it does not. Leopard in every tree does not bring “diversity and flavour” to the game. Top tier is already infested with Leopard tanks, more Leclercs is needed.
You’re looking in a very narrow “France doesn’t have any leopard tanks” and forget the bigger view “Leopards outnumber Leclercs in the game”
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Nah, us swedes got austria first-
They also have a cool draken variant I would like to see added.
The game overall has few Leclercs and tons of Leos. This is decreasing diversity. Not to mention that we have zero Leclerc prototypes in the game.
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Not needed and French origin planes are fine though. It ticks one box atleast, which is that it is French origin.
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What is the purpose of subtrees then, if not what Gaijin officially intended?
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As both of us said, fill gaps is one of the reasons.
However, as I said it is not to fill gaps that can be filled by domestic options.
I mean like
Thats the whole point of a subtree…
To fill gaps that domestic designs cant cover
Did you intend to use a double negative here?
Subtrees are to fill gaps that can also be filled by domestic options?
It’s funny but I have the impression that no one really defends the Benelux addition, or very few people
Not quite, the right sentence is “there will only be copied and pasted”
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To be fair, I don’t think BeNeLux peeps wanted copy and paste to come to the game instead of the unique designs, so it would be unfair to take it out on them.
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I’m not quite sure how the turret is part French, the cannon is made by CMI Defence which is Cockerill’s previous name which is pretty obviously Belgian
it was always going to have copy and paste vehicles… dont you people just understand that??? like isnt the leopard 1 cockerill unique enough? no cuz it has the leopard 1 hull. like jesus christ
Adding more diversity within trees is what matters because both that’s how lineups are made (more diverse lineups) and also because it means faster access to a wider range of vehicles (far less grind to get them).
What other trees have is fairly moot.
This is only true to some extent. No one grinds another tree for the same exact vehicle. The entire premise of a tree is that they have differences and are unique in respect to one another.
To some extent what you said is true. It is more valuable to add another VBCI or Vextra than it is to add another Leclerc, but it is not a win to have a Leopard.
The main selling point of France currently is that if you want to remain competitive and not play copy paste Leopards, Leclercs are there.
Since the leak only really covers top-tier except the Fokker G.1, i hope the rest of the sub-tree is unique at lower ranks. Not because it would “taint the French tree” with copy paste or whatever nobody is forcing you to play the sub-tree, but because it would be a huge waste of cool and unique vehicles
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Now that I’m slightly refreshed. Diversity is fine, but the problem is that there’s becoming to much copy-paste.
How many times should you grind the Leopard 2 before there’s to many?
France as a tech tree should have France as a starting point for what technology is in it. If there’s something with French influence it should be in it. Not just adding something for the sake of diversity, or just using it as an excuse for taking the easy solution.
A copy-paste leopard 2 has no French influence while also not adding much in terms of gameplay for French line ups.
Something that’s copy-paste should be the exception, not the rule. Which as it’s been constantly said, France doesn’t have gaps that can’t be filled domestically.
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Ehh, depends. I already had the Panzer 4 and T-34 before grinding the Finnish sub-tree, but having both of them in the same lineup was pretty fun
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