I see thematic connections for either, but between the two I would pick France. Especially as Germany has a much fuller tech tree.
Swiss and Austrian stuff should go to Germany though. Spain should likely go to Italy. Ireland to UK. The only country in the general region which seems difficult to place is Poland, but ultimately probably USSR.
Germany, USA and Britain as well.
Maybe, an " Other than Germany, Britain, France or Sweden European nations tree"
For tanks maybe but clearly not for plane
A lot of their Cold war Era weapon are french, Spain and Switzerland have more French equipment than the Benelux
And on top of that, we must remember that France is one of the rare “small” countries which makes a point of having its own military industry since the Second World War with very little collaboration or purchase of foreign vehicles
That’s an entirely different problem for me. 😵💫
Completely losing Spain means losing a set of good AMX-30’s. Switzerland likewise means French equipment like the FL-20.
Origin of equipment doesn’t factor in for me; this is simply grouping countries “thematically”, and whatever they happen to use comes along for the ride.
And may I know the theme cause I don’t find it
Or how about adding a “personal” tree, where you can pick vehicles for each tier or each vehicle type from a pool of the vehicles that you already own, regardless of nation. Do some real “Commander in Chief” stuff. Have a budget . . . maybe use all those Convertible Research Points we all have laying around for that . … . say . . . that’s not a bad idea . . . lol. Anyway, would be fun & interesting to think about what you wanted to do for something like that. . … someone needs to make a suggestion for something like that . . more well thought out. This idea just came to me reading what you guys were saying about something along these lines . . .
I’m not sure why you can’t, it’s one of those things that’s just intuitively apparent and can’t be explained by some technical thing or other. Like how all Commonwealth stuff going to the UK simply “makes sense”. Or all Nordic countries into Sweden.
Someone had made a suggestion to put countries in Folder, as for vehicles, there could have been a folder including France as the main nation and a certain rank would have been required to start searching for sub-nation vehicles (a a bit like unblocking Israel), this idea is really not bad
That’s just a subtree but with added UI complexity.
In this case I suggest that we delete the Chinese tree because after all the majority of vehicles are of Russian origin and just have a different name, personally the commonwealth makes sense because it is a real gathering of countries , but the fact that the Netherlands, whose combat battalions are coupled with those of Germany, is found in France is completely beyond me
MILITARY: Dutch-German military merge (1) infographic (graphicnews.com)
Thematics is a more personal issue, but that reinforces the Leopard 2 and F-16 as having no place.
The Leopard 31105 would likewise go to Germany in my opinion.
Yes.
But : if you have the money/hardware, you don’t have the diplomatic agreement to import/export from/to every body.
And players will grind the best of the best techtree.
One secret of the mechanic gaming is frustration. Every techtree must have some fails and must be imperfect.
Eh, the Leopard 3105 pairs a Leopard 1BE with a Franco-Belgian (sort of) turret:
So it should go to France in lieu of any independent Belgian tree. That said, I’m struggling to see the common theme between Netherlands and France which @BleedingUranium keeps waffling on about.
The Netherlands purely standalone is pretty much 50/50 for France/Germany outside of that military connection, and even that is very specifically a modern thing. And if we look at past eras (especially WWII) then not so much.
But with the topic being the Benelux trio as a single “item”, Belgium very strongly pulls the group to France.
Then add Belgium and leave the Netherlands for Germany. Not as if France would be missing anything without Netherlands. No one wants Leopard 2s in the French tree, would only taint the French tree.
With what, a single plane ?
While they use differents versions of the Leopards, British and Americans Planes ?
They would be missing all the Dutch vehicles.
Some vocal people. Trying to speak for “everyone” on the internet always makes an argument sound weaker, and silly.
How wonderfully melodramatic.
Germany can have Austria and Switzerland.
So they don’t miss anything. When there are equivalents for each of the vehicles offered, adding them is useless.
