Ehh, depends. I already had the Panzer 4 and T-34 before grinding the Finnish sub-tree, but having both of them in the same lineup was pretty fun
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I’m currently in the process of creating a suggestion that addresses issues with subtrees. I’ll likely have it posted in a few hours.
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2A4 has the potential of being unique depending on its model.
Cockerill will be unique.
F-5A is likely just gonna be the US F-5A.
And who knows which F-16As, but they’re likely going to be a copy of one of the existing F-16As we have.
2A6 is obviously copy-paste.
And the rest is going to be guaranteed unique.
Fair enough, then perhaps one could argue lineups is a reason
Well, the gun is made by the French sub-division of Cockerill which is part of GICAT so it would be actively participating in native French developments. Not to detract from the Belgians but the gun is probably a further development of the GIAT CN 105 G2. The turret uses Safran optics which are only ever used on native French designs* so there was definitely some direct French involvement (whereas all other exports go through Thales). That’s why I say “sort of”. I mean it’s a Belgian design at the end of the day but there was definitely notable French involvement. Though the extent to which is unclear and it is admittedly mostly speculation though based on a historical track record.
*Unless you’re the USA and can afford whatever exorbitant price Safran sold their optics for to be used on the M10 Booker and M1E3.
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But then i do hope they kept unique stuff for lower ranks, i reaaally want my Renard R.36 :((
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I agree!
There are so many unique designs, these copy-paste ones are really upsetting to see.
I recently discovered the Amx30 Javelot, which is a anti-air unguided (proxy fuse) radar anti-air. How interesting is that? 64 rocket pod, with 8-rocket bursts / salvos.
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it’s true, I had forgotten again that France does not have a tank whose gameplay is based on high mobility but which has less armor than certain nations
Sub-tech trees are a good idea but goddang I wish Gaijin would just add more unique different nation vehicles in doing so.
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The F-16s will have no originality, although the Belgians used the F-16 block 1 which, if added to the game, would simply be the worst F-16
I don’t trust them for that
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Agreed, I definitely hope there’s more in the lower tiers. I’d love to see things like the Belgian T.15, armed with just a 13mm MG (not unlike the American M2A2).
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There’s a lot of trust in Gaijin that they have consistently failed to fulfill.
With BeNeLux comes a lot of unique vehicles, but a lot of copy-paste as well.
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Today, Top tier battle are soviet tank and german tanks at 80%.
Tomorow in name of diversity, it will be soviet and german tank at 100% but with different camo.
Adding Benelux to France is adding Leo to France, Adding Spain and Serbia to Italy it’s adding more Leo and more T72 to Italy, while Ariete is invisible on the battle field.
We can add Poland to Britain so Brit can play leo and T72. Plus we can add Ukrain to USA and Americains can play leo and T80.
It will be so sad.
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It’s just a prototype, like AMX 13 2x20mm.
There is a lot of real french SPAA can be implemented.
VLRA Mistral used by France
VBL Mistral Albi used by Oman
AMX 13 DCA with the AMX30 DCA turret. This AMX13DCA was used by France, while AMX30DCA is for export.
VAB 20mm used by France
AMX 30 Roland, the true version used by France with the same turret than the American XM975prototype(M975 in service) and the German FlaRakPz1 , not the one edited and downgrade by Gaijin.
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Can’t agree more, In addition, we can send Leopard 2 from Singapore to China, Leopard 2 from Indonesia to Japan, Leopard 2 from Canada to the United States, and the Soviet Union should also receive Leopard 2. They are already in Moscow. Gaijin can even add these Leopard 2 as a separate version, The Leave list will only have Leopard 2, I can’t wait to see such an update.
France arm lots of armed vehicles, that depends on Gaijin’s willings, such as Jaugar wheeled combat vehicle, adding German made ones absulotely is not a good idea.
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Is there even a definitive confirmation that france is getting a new subtree? afaik we’ve only seen “leak” lists mentioning it
It’s look amazing! And the 2 guns will kill the frustation when the IR can lock on heli at medium range.
Does it in service in some country? Because There is a lot of prototype in the game, but there is also many real french SPAA IRL.
I’m pretty sure it was only a single prototype.
But I would say this is unique enough to ask for.
The only other prototype spaa that seems interesting is the AMX-10 RAA.