The Challenger 2 made me realise that I am a firm believer that LRF (Laser Range Finder) should be a stock modification. Its ridiculous that its a Tier 4 modification in a BR where you NEED it almost more than your mobility itself.
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Not when they have 900mm of penetration that you can aim with enough filler to overpressure reliably on optics.
So that’s just worse HE shell they already have access to. 80U simply has mid firepower for it’s BR, which is to be expected as it shares the same BR with tanks that fire DM53/M829A2 every 5s.
On topic: you’re just going to have to accept CR2s are War Thunder on Extreme difficulty settings.
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Challegner 2 is by far one, if not maybe the weakest tank at top tier these days. How gaijin believes otherwise is crazy.
There are heapings of bug reports for them, but they refuse to even acknowledge they exist.
In light of that. They all need at least a 0.3 BR drop. Even the BN and 2E are very hard to justify at 12.0 and would be better suited for 11.7.
Combine with the fact the British top tier line-up is also one of the weakest with no IFV and no SPAA and our CAS line-up is also barely competitive these days as well. It is time Gaijin actually fixes the top tier ground for Britain, because at the moment. I just consider the tree ends at 10.7
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You underestimate Russian Barrel-Launched Missiles. They can lolpen Leopard 2A7V turrets on the later ones.
Every other 12.0 should go .3 or even higher not otherwise. It should have better dart to at least match it’s counterparts. Every nation gets good round, even Japan has 600+ round with 4sec autoloader. So why Chally has to work with L27A1 still lacking speed, overall mobility, reload etc? Idk, I am yet still to experience those things because my only point of reference is premium OES that is decent in my hand.
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I think both should happen.
We should get a reload rate buff. For a long time, that is exactly what we had, and then they made 5 seconds the default for everyone else and so we lost that buff.
Its the best round it could get unfortunately, but im 100% certain the post-pen damage could be buffed and the shell itself has outstanding reports to buffs its pen (marginally).
But quick and dirty list of buffs for the CR2:
- Increase ready rack from 4 rounds to 28 rounds
- Increase reload rate to 4-4.5 seconds
- Increase post-pen damage from the L27A1
- Actually model Armour on the CR2
- Actually model ERA on the CR2s
- Fix outstanding reports for the Spall-liners
- Add dozer blades to all appropriate variants
- Add Regen Steering
- Replace 7.7mm MGs with 12.7mm HMGs
You can read the reports here:
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What can I say, Gaijin is criminal hater of certain vehicles and won’t buff it. When I play OES I see maybe 1-2 Chally 2 per day alongside me. Feels like I play unicorn tank
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Yeah, it’s nice to be unique, but that should be a giant red flag that no one is playing it
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I don’t really, if they were that special no one would use the darts as 3BM60 is far from the best one.
I use them regularly and always bring them. They have a massive amount of pen and filler.
Me right now trying to spade the 2 first leo 2…:
Can’t even get to the first cap point on time on most of the map + right now it’s just swarm of Russian players stomping us.
This is why I dont play above 10.3
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10.7 Britain is as goated as it always has been for me.
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Shell mass determines how fast a round loses speed and falls off. It’s been a while since I’ve been here, but that’s why British Shells feel so awful to snipe with.
The lineup is good, just the 11.7 uptiers suck, so playing 10.3 you get 80% of the lineup without the uptiers.
Actually you get downtiers more often than not
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Its funny because it isnt used in penetration calcs.
Having a heavier, denser shell should help.
I have more uptiers than downtiers in my British 10.7 lineup, but I’m also well aware that my matchmaking is beyond cursed.
This is part 2 of the screenshot I posted yesterday after playing some more games. These screenshots aren’t meant to brag either, I seriously have no idea why Britain 10.7 is winning so many games for me at the moment. (okay except for the last mozdok game, going 17-1 in the Chally 1 MK.3 probably helped win that one).
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An 11.7 premium player is way worse than a competent 10.7 player.
I’m just thankful the Clickbait is 12.0, so it doesn’t act like a vacuum.
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