Flat pen, the angled pen on that gun/shell (shared w/ Na-to, Chi-ri, Chi-to) is really rough.
Last time I played it, it had a tendency to bounce off of even lightly armored targets, let alone t-34s.
The strength of the Chi-Nu II is lower than BR 4.3, and even lowering it to 4.0 doesn’t appear too strong. The thin and brittle armor is like Lay’s potato chips,This’s a very fatal problem in AB, and the long reloading rate is even making it worse : (
I agree, but I’d also like for the Chi-to(s) and maybe Chi-ri to get lowered back to a more sensible BR. That gun has no business being on a medium tank anywhere above 4.3.
The Pz IVH/J gets a similar shell, and similar armor at 3.7, with the only trade-offs being mobility and gun traverse.
Long reloading rate reduces fault tolerance : (
Chi-Nu II’s '“mobility and gun traverse” are also mediocre
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It was 4.0 at one time but players like me always get lots of kills so they raised it.
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I think it was fine at 3.7 and even more now that Pz IV L43/L48 sit at 3.3-3.7br.
When it sat at 3.7 with F2 and Ausf.G it was trade. Do you want good German lineup,decent MG and better slope pen or do you want better OHK chance with Chi-Nu II
The Japanese long 75 mm actually has better slope pen than the Pz.IV 75 mm, however it has higher ricochet chance.
Really the trade off is having better ricochet chances and faster reload or higher overall penetration, better TNT filler and velocity.
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Ahh yes. Haven’t played Japanese long time so forgot it was ricochet chance that was bad.
I just remember that it had really high chance of bouncing off things like T-34 and even M4A2 when German 75mm felt like it almost always went through.
You probably already thought of this but any time you shoot at a enemy just aim for a flat part. any flat part normally works. I have over pressured so many tanks with no penetration just by hitting a flat plate instead of shooting the weaker plate that is angled
Chi-nu is fine à 4.3. Chi-to and late should back to 4.3, Panzer IV (F2, G and H) should move up +0.3/0.7 when you see Churchill mk.I is the same BR of Panzer IV G, it’s stupid).
M4A2 and T-34 are ok at 4.0
Exactly so.
The APHE on the Chi-Nu II, Chi-Tos and Chi-Ri II cannot overpressure. You need at least 170 grams of TNT equivalent for that.
It would make 0 sense to put the Chi-Tos at the same BR as the Chi-Nu II seeing as they are basically objectively better. They are bigger, but otherwise they have the same gun, better armor and better mobility.
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They won’t be at the same BR as the Chi-Nu ll could go lower, they are all barely different from Pz IVs and overtiered.
Welp then that is a bug for me. I have over pressured PzlVs and Shermans with it
As far as overpressure, are you sure you’re not thinking of a different tank? The Chi-nu 2 has a punchy shell, but it’s not that punchy.
You should be getting pens on Pz4s if you’re shooting the flat surfaces. You have ~140mm of effective pen at any given time, so the flat part of a panzer shouldn’t be an issue regardless.
I did it with the Chi To Late , Chi To and Chi Ri II. I though they had the same gun as the Chi Nu II
They do, and all their APHEs are incapable of overpressure.
Unless you have an actual clip that shows it, I’m more willing to believe the game code.
I don’t have a clip. But it did happen. only cause you don’t believe doesn’t mean anything
You made the claim that you killed those tanks via overpressure with rounds that don’t have overpressure enabled in the game code, and it is up to you to actually show proof that, yes, you did indeed kill those tanks via overpressure. Otherwise, yours is just one of many unproved claims that get thrown around with no evidence.
While me not believing it doesn’t mean much, I know that I am not alone when it comes to not believing it.