The Chi-Nu, Chi-To don’t have a reason to have slower reload than anyone else’s 6.0 sec
Furthermore they just need to fix AP rounds instead of lowering the BR.
AP rounds should not have 50% chance at 60 degrees. This is why you bounce 24/7 from T-34 upper plate. That 50% chance should be more at 70 degrees where the slope modifier at 1.0 T/D ratio reaches around 4.0 slope modifier. Currently AP bounces infinitely more than APCR vs sloped armour which should not be the case.
All AP rounds are severely underperforming vs sloped armour to the point rounds like T33 AP can’t penetrate Panther upper plate even at point blank range when penetration should be possible even at 1200 meters.
Type 5 75mm L/56 (After it’s fixed)
Reload Speed: 6.0 sec
Tokku Ko AP (6.615kg at 850m/s)
155-185mm @ 0m at 0 degrees *
69mm @ 0m at 60 degrees
AP shells lack piercing cap and deform against flat thick armour at low obliquities. At high obliquities this issue no longer occurs. Although the shell is capable of 185mm penetration, the deformation results in lower flat value however does not represent the penetration capability of the round, 185mm potential penetration however does.
The strength of the Chi-Nu II is lower than BR 4.3, and even lowering it to 4.0 doesn’t appear too strong. The thin and brittle armor is like Lay’s potato chips,This’s a very fatal problem in AB, and the long reloading rate is even making it worse : (
I agree, but I’d also like for the Chi-to(s) and maybe Chi-ri to get lowered back to a more sensible BR. That gun has no business being on a medium tank anywhere above 4.3.
The Pz IVH/J gets a similar shell, and similar armor at 3.7, with the only trade-offs being mobility and gun traverse.
I think it was fine at 3.7 and even more now that Pz IV L43/L48 sit at 3.3-3.7br.
When it sat at 3.7 with F2 and Ausf.G it was trade. Do you want good German lineup,decent MG and better slope pen or do you want better OHK chance with Chi-Nu II
Ahh yes. Haven’t played Japanese long time so forgot it was ricochet chance that was bad.
I just remember that it had really high chance of bouncing off things like T-34 and even M4A2 when German 75mm felt like it almost always went through.
You probably already thought of this but any time you shoot at a enemy just aim for a flat part. any flat part normally works. I have over pressured so many tanks with no penetration just by hitting a flat plate instead of shooting the weaker plate that is angled
Chi-nu is fine à 4.3. Chi-to and late should back to 4.3, Panzer IV (F2, G and H) should move up +0.3/0.7 when you see Churchill mk.I is the same BR of Panzer IV G, it’s stupid).
The APHE on the Chi-Nu II, Chi-Tos and Chi-Ri II cannot overpressure. You need at least 170 grams of TNT equivalent for that.
It would make 0 sense to put the Chi-Tos at the same BR as the Chi-Nu II seeing as they are basically objectively better. They are bigger, but otherwise they have the same gun, better armor and better mobility.
As far as overpressure, are you sure you’re not thinking of a different tank? The Chi-nu 2 has a punchy shell, but it’s not that punchy.
You should be getting pens on Pz4s if you’re shooting the flat surfaces. You have ~140mm of effective pen at any given time, so the flat part of a panzer shouldn’t be an issue regardless.