Example number 1
as far as i understand this is a norinco patent for their autloaders from 2006
I don’t know what this says
[…] 125 […] 125 […].
You’re welcome!
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I really don’t mind BM42 at 12.3 tbh, it was not hard to stock grind with it. I wish they in the future fix the armour and remove BTA-4.
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It’s about a new autoloader modification for tanks to utilize modern shells as far as I understand, and whilst dtw-125 predates this it wasn’t exported before this.
The amount of times I had Relikt eat 3BM42 and alikes whilst playing against Soviet/Russian 12.x is too great on my record.
I’d rather keep BTA4 even with 6.4s reload rather than have an enormous skill issue trying to do shit against ridiculous ERA or composite armor under funny angles doing unfunny things
It seems like they fixed the ERA on the UFP somewhat, still some questionable gaps though. So where are the spots where armor that should be improved? I think the side ERA can do better but I haven’t unlocked the oplot yet.
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Ah right yeah I knew ATGMs couldn’t penetrate soviet ERA but how did Gaijin manage the opposite for Ukrainian ERA…Odd. But from my side looks like APFSDS can’t pass through most of the Duplet ERA, unlike how it did when it was added to the game.
Fair enough xd
Structural steel instead of rolled homogeneous armor💔
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There were people (amongst which was even bug report manager) that stated it should have been rubber as per patent, be glad it’s steel in any form 🥀
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i also have ze uhm… 3d model heh
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Don’t talk nonsense. The anti-splinter liner looks very different from the Soviet radiation liner.
Neither the Oplot nor the T-84 have one. The only tank based on the T-series with a liner is the T-90M.
You literally can’t question this just by looking at the tank’s interior.
Another issue is that the anti-radiation liner also has shrapnel protection properties, which, while inferior to specialized liner, coupled with its greater thickness (50-60mm in many places), can provide even greater protection than a 20mm Kevlar sheet.
Вестник Бронетанковой техники 1988 №1
“Svenskt Pansar” (SMB, 2009)
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CIA report
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Even the angle of fire is not the same here.
In any case, such empirical estimates do not make sense until the players have counterarguments about the firing of the forward module Oplot from 3BM42.
The projectile penetrated the armor to the penultimate layer of steel and significantly penetrated it. Accordingly, the Duplex module (2 layers of steel, 2 layers of ERA and lid) can be estimated to be slightly larger than 457mm.
In the game, in fact, you get the same result.
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In fact, until the players have an explanation for why this data is incorrect, the developers will not review the armor.
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Still not fixed
Vro, what is this nonsense overreaction 💔
I can understand that you did not understand my original comment on the fact that NBC and spall liner were divided from each other as per that removed web-page by KMBD. You might want to look at the bug report and its attached screenshot that I referred to.
I cannot open the page from wayback machine, but if I am not mistaken, it was pretty much manufacturer’s statement. And if you look closely, these two points (NBC and spall liner) are separated, without further explanation on whether they are talking about the same thing (NBC providing spall protection) or having a separate armor pieces to provide the said liner.
Original quote: “The overpressure-type NBC protection system protects the crew and inner equipment of the tank against the nuclear weapon effects, radioactive dust, toxic agents and bacteriological materials. The radiation shielding is designed in the form of a liner fixed on both internal and external surfaces of the tank to give protection against radiation from nuclear explosions. Spall liners are also fitted greatly reducing behind armour effect. To the right and to the left of the driver’s seat are pillars which strengthen the hull in the event of the vehicle running over a mine.”
Idk how that sounds to you, but I interpret (as other people did in fact) “also” as if spall liner is fitted alongside NBC lining, or integrated, or are meant to be the same thing. Lack of clarification imo, therefore I theorised. But that train of thought moved past you and you took my statement as a sort of an absolute, rendering it to misinformation (as I have done nothing but provided a theory based on the statement).
I wouldn’t have questioned this due to the aforementioned reasons. And as I said, Oplot, for the matter of fact, should not have a spall liner. Finally, the main reason why the report was closed is the fact that it covered not the Oplot (which we currently have in the game) but T-84 which is not here.
As of NBC lining providing anti-spalling properties: known thing. Otherwise we wouldn’t have seen WIP T-90A (and probably other tanks as of now) with its NBC being worked on to provide extra protection and survivability.
EDIT: it might be the “coating” of an autoloader that is accounted as “spall liner” and not of the entire vehicle, or its particular part. Again, it is not specified, which made me ponder whether some of the NBC lining, say, in the hull was replaced by some anti-spall material, or they meant that NBC holds properties that of spall liner.
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