The Black Prince's BR

and with this im going to peace out of the conversation because I just wanted to roast the same Teaboo in a second thread for complaining about his heavy tank not being invincible. not become a politics discussion. apologies to the moderators

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Yea. Likewise going to head. Unlike you, happy to discuss politics, but definitely needs a half competent interlocutor that isn’t just going to spew conspiracies with little basis in reality.

My family knew maggie thatcher that may explain a few things lol. nice chatting though

Aye, take care.

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you too mate
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I have removed it so you can stick to your Fosters and Sheep : )

Also, Ah yes… the AIRCRAFT engine designed to fly upside down and at all kinds of angles, would be upset by being set in a tank at a like 15-20 degree angle to make it clear the Engine deck.

Hell the Black Prince in game is already MODELED with the Meteor engine.
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IT is Physically modeled with the V12, and the Fuel tank and radiator set up that was going to be used for the Meteor engine. NOT the Bedford Type 120, which was just a modified version of the Churchill’s Flat 12 Twin Six engine.

And the CHURCHILLS in game do have the proper Model for the Bedford Twin six, it is entirely different from the model in the Black Prince.

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the merlin was famous for cutting out in negative Gs so no it wasn’t made to fly upside down
nor was it ever off-camber by a few degrees for months of operation, planes don’t fly sideways, nor do tanks, boats or cars, they all tend to have their engines built to be on level ground.

The black prince model is from NINE years ago, when a lot of information on more niche tanks wasn’t all online yet, errors were more common in models, just like the smoke discharger being modelled at the front of the turret when it was actually at the rear on the existing black prince at the tank museum in England, I’ve seen it for myself and war thunders model is quite poor in honesty, as per a lot of the British vehicles first added, World of Tanks is significantly more accurate in its model

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The In game Black Prince isn’t based off Prototype #4, its based off #1, the original, which had the smoke discharger at the front, among other differences.

But hey you clearly already don’t know shit about it so why should i bother explaining stuff to you.

Ive studied this thing for years, i know the little quirks of every Prototype, Like #3 being nearly completely welded construction with NO visible bolts on the side armor. And having extra armor over the forward part of the hull where the side armor met the inside armor of the tracks.
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you also thought a ford was British so I doubt you’re an expert on machinery.

if you think you have compelling evidence to get BP moved to 5.7 and get an engine it never really was tested with then bug report it. stop being a butthurt teaboo on the forums while you’re at it

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Bruh i’m a engineer.

atleast partially, I know my way around shit.

I’ve never got a chance to use my Training, BUT i know my stuff

My '63 Ford Mustang with the inline 6 doesnt want to idle properly, would adapting a two chamber carburetor fix the issue?

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nice little backtrack in your edit and is that why youve been complaining in the forums about a wrong model giving false hope for over a year?

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Likely a Timing issue more than anything, Double check your Timing, and that your advance and everything is working, Sand the points and all that Jazz, if that doesn’t help it MAY be a carb issue, or it could be a multitude of other issues like burnt valves, Maybe just a old tired motor.

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Thats actually more of an answer than I’d expected, for better reference the motor ran decent initially and then I’d ordered a new carburetor for it and went thru two before deciding to not buy one based off the origjnal and rather adapt one, besides that its also likely an issue of one of the tubes not being sealed properly cause only god knows how old those are. Anyways this is a warthunder forum, not a Ford forum and that was actually a lot more of a response than I’d actually expected

Making the Black Prince faster would raise it’s BR not lower it

The 17 pdr is good feature in this game and always gives bad vehicles higher BR.The BP is heavily armoured there is no doubt.
It is probably only 6BR due to it’s ridiculous low speed or it would be higher.
If were more common it might be higher.
At 6 BR it can face 7 BR which will make it’s armour redundant and at 5BR it’s op for the best part if used correctly.

I am not interested in going into an " I used to be a tanker" or “I am an engineer” etc just staying within the remit of the game.I really think the BP at 6BR is right considering where the Cobra King is now.I don’t see the BP getting raised or lowered.

You have Artillery at 6BR which is one shot killing any heavy at 6BR now and it’s making armour a moot point.Same with the German armour which has always been my fascination so to a degree I share your frustration there.

This reinforces my point that War Thunder has gone too far into fantasy land with out of era time travel matches and prototypes that never saw a days action.
With the map destruction and copy paste spam we have a game very quickly going down the toilet and your currant lack of joy playing the BP seems like another example of it.

How many posts on here about the pointlessness of heavy tanks particularly in the uptier?

So at range you are not going to 100% be a good shot as the 17pdr is relatively more inaccurate at range.

Pixel perfect shots are influenced by RNG and scope limits ability (comparatively).

Of course, 6.0 is fine now, lots moved up around it.

Though to be fair heavy tanks were worse in this regard previous to these complaints.

Always been a bad idea to use most heavies in an uptier, since forever.

Full downtier meant you were very short on SP and one early “death” was you out of the match, which meant being more careful/thoughtful as opposed to the more brain dead modern WT (not tiers, the way it is played).

Quality of player reduction = all goes to hell.

THIS is why AB and RB Ground have Lineups. You pick depending on situation; but new players don’t appear to want to ever think so we get poor experiences, and no new modes of missions, no good maps. Gaijin make what fits the masses, others just find disappointment.

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i get decent hits at up to 2.5km with the 17pdr APDS, I understand its limitations as its such an early sub calibre but its not anywhere near as bad as what people say

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