From what I see all aim120D’s have a HLG the motors burn black and then white smoke, previous generations would burn only white.
whats TL1 and TL2?
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Does anyone know more about the NCADE missile?
Supposedly it uses a aim9x seeker and was successfully tested on f16 and was made for F-15, F-16, F/A-18, F-22 and F-35
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Id wager when theyre talking about increase of motor perfomance they mean the motor performs better but who am i.
Battery life increases delivering a 50% increase in perfomance over c-7 model sounds like borderline lying about a missile’s perfomance im curious what’s going there
Not really insane. Say there was no battery limitation.
Then range could be up to 250km for example
seen that before, that sounds dubious does anyone have the full document? what do they even define as effective range? a missile that has been going sub mach 2 is hardly capable of effectively engaging any target
Looks the same to me also it also says ncade atam 9X telemetry missile in the video you can see it on the missile where they zoom In at
Wonder how long are the battery life of PL-15, Meteor and AIM-174B, given how kinematics arent the main problem according to this doc
In a presentation a while back, MBDA said that Meteor had to withstand aerodynamic heating for “a few minutes” while cruising to the target. So I guess the battery life of Meteor is 180s at an absolute minimum, likely more.
Edit Saab say Meteor flew for “several” minutes. So flight time is very likely more than three minutes.
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Either its cover-up talk to conceal actual motor improvements, or Congress grade wording to justify spending on new missile.
My guess it would be interception of non-evading target, while missile is given glorious launch conditions. Does this fit into rather vague “effective range”? Well yes, because missile does its job when target cooperates.
As for document, maybe @Gunjob could shed a light?
Wasn’t one somewhat confirmed info about Meteor being able to cover 100km in 90s, which would be SUSTAINED 4000km/h TAS at very least? I doubt Meteor has enough fuel to sustain burn this long, so missile would have to achieve quite bit higher speed during burn to meet this “100km in 90s” claim. At the same time, ramjet don’t need oxidizer in their propellant, just “fuel proper” while taking oxygen from ambient air… so who knows.
It’s most likely that the Battery life extension theoretically allows for the High altitude coast phase of flight to be significantly extended, so can prosecute the standard; 80kft, non-maneuvering closing at Mach 2 target. able to be engaged at a much longer range since the loft maneuver can be made to be much more aggressive since there is more time for the missile to fly.
And an extension for example from 120 ~180 seconds is quite a long time to add especially to only get a 50% extension to range.
80kft/24km, mach 2 is the US benchmark for missile performance? Is it ballistic missile interception or what, as 24km alt is quite a stretch for usual combat aircraft.
Not specifically, but its not unknown from working backwards from previous ranges.
To be at least based off known missiles to be quoted for very high altitude non-maneuvering targets.
So basically it’s for a MiG-25 / -31 or Tu-22 / Tu-160 especially if only one absurd value is given since it’s of no real use in finding out what the NEZ, or A- / -F Pole ranges might look like for dealing with a high performance fighter near Sea level.
Remember, it can throttle down to increase range and then throttle back up in the terminal phase to increase the PK.
The officially stated range is “in excess of 100 nm”
But there are instances or murmurings of it being able to reach 150nm.
100km is just 53 nauticle miles, so it stands to reason that for a target at that distance, the missile can just go full ham all the way…
But the time to target value seems to be more interpreted as launching at a target traveling towards you at, saynfor example, mach 0.9, so a missle travel distance of around 70km which gives a much more reasonable average speed of 2800km/h
From the dev stream it seems like the Aim-120D is currently just a C-5 with more battery life again…
Sigh maybe i should just stop caring at this point…
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Wrong. It has 0° or m/s of drift on the IOG mode
Might i point you to a further message in this thread that explains how zero IOG drift isnt a meaningful improvement?
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