i was a glass half full guy a year ago, now that glass has dried up, im tired of america being terrible, which it has been for a year + now
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It is sad to hear that.
Starting to feel the same
Don’t lose hope. We still have AIM-260 that might make into production someday…
after what theyve done to the aim120 i dont care about whatever happens with aim260. im sure aim120d3 will be just as butchered.
hell im looking forward to r33 and r37. im sure both are going to be extremely good and actually modelled properly differently from aim54.
its very funny too you got the r40s which is are maneuverable than aim120s right now lmao.
Aim120D’s definitely got the C-5 treatment. Check my recent message in the aim120thread
The AIM-120 'AMRAAM' - History, Design, Performance & Discussion - #1788 by tripod2008
Aim260 has been in production. For years. The AF has about 400 the navy is 300~ I believe
So AIM-260 has entered service or is it still under testing?
It’s slated to enter service this year according to a recent funding document
It’s been Type Classified, and likely reached EOC, but not yet IOC. Entry to service is normally considered the IOC date.
That’s good to know.
Yea it’s straight up ready to enter service
The ID code is A stating it’s service ready
300~ just for the airforce
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There is one redeeming thing in what he said there. That the GNSS feature they gave to it will apparently allow it to hit the target as long as the shooter plane can keep radar lock even if the AIM-120D cannot see the target anymore in terminal guidance?
Which isn’t the case for the AIM-120C in game. Once the missile onboard radar activate, guidance from the plane is not taken into account.
If this is true, this will make the AIM-120D really powerful since AESA radars are super hard to notch and you’ll have to notch both the plane radar and the missile.
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So a fox 1 and fox 3 combined together
Yeah. If they truly make the AIM-120D like that, we might actually be back AMRAAM bros. F-18E will be splendid.
I’m pretty sure it’s easier to notch the MICA than it is notching the AESA radars. And we all know how annoying it already is to defeat the MICAs
That would be good. Hopefully it’s maneuverability won’t be same as 120C
Will be the same, but flight profile is different apparently. It loft more or something? That’s how it achieves higher max range alongside the battery life. So it should hit a target at 20-25km range faster during terminal dive, making it harder to evade.
That sounds good. But what will happen if aircraft radar is notched? Does it have 2 seperate guidance system? If its a yes then how does it know that either one of the guidance is actually tracking target
I guess there might be a priority system to which I have no idea about
Has anyone got further info on this GNSS guidance
1 → Plane radar guides missile to target until the radar of the missile turns on.
2 → If the radar of the missile loses target, it asks the plane for updated coordinates until it can reacquire or it hit target.
3 → If the radar of the plane has also lost target, the missile can calculate the expected flight path of the target plane using the last information it has about it and will fly there automatically with search radar on, trying to reacquire.
AIM-120A/B/C do not have step 2. These are deaf to any further instruction from the plane after step 1. That’s also why they’re super easy to evade as long as you change direction. If you were going down, go up and the missile will continue on an empty expected flight path, and so on.
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This is exactly how IOG+DL works and has been working in game for years. When missile seeker doesn’t see valid targets in area indicated by IOG, it continues to fly with it hoping it will find out. All datalink does is updating target location for IOG, which gets even quicker for AESAs
However, to meet this “missile seeker doesn’t see valid targets” criteria you need notching and low flying target. Notching, so missile needs to turn off Doppler filter to even try to track, while low flying means any released chaff is hidden by ground clutter.
The moment notching target flies high enough for ground clutter to not overwhelm chaff radar return and target flies slow enough to not trigger angle gating, missile will bite into chaff as usual.
Only novelty that could be added there is ability for datalink to reconnect, which… may or may not result in funny, given only missiles with datalink reconnect ability in game are SARH and they WILL change targets when you reconnect datalink on different target.
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