Does the system count teamkills after the round has ended?
The system automatically detects teamkills within X period. Over time they are removed, so if you get banned… it is because you were excessive with it
Can you provide a link to where it states this in Gaijin’s terms/conditions/rules ?
Can we have access to see any black marks on our accounts ? I can on other games I play.
Just as a piece of information I have been muted/banned from chat for many years, so I am very dubious about any claims of punishments being removed over time.
Simply put I do not trust the company and their interactions with the player base, they make it up as thye go along and change it at whim.
So far as your perma chat ban… that means you were punished enough times that it IS permanent, which you will find in section two of the link
Thanks for the link, interesting with the teamkill information at bit like the computer in Wargames stating that the best way to win the game is not to play.
Seems that not firing any shots/bombs or artillery is the best way to avoid having teamkills and potentially being banned. But it does happen in real life with blue-on-blue incidents but apparently not in video games where it could actually be programmed in to avoid as it is in Ground Arcade (but not bombs or artillery) but funnily enough in Air Arcade it does no damage but can get you kicked from the game.
Weird inconsistences in the game and I expect in realistic and simulator it is even worse.
I will never ever try to help my teammates again, because if I try and I accidently hit them, next time I get perma ban. No thanks. I rather play this team game solo.
Somehow in ground I have never ever teamkilled anyone except few cases when ppl decides to drive into my orange smoke.
Air battles? Well IR missiles can be tricky, if friendly passed in the path of missile, missile might change the path and follow other plane. But have you tried playing aim 7F? Lock one target, friendly is on opposite side of the screen and guess what, that missile goes after friendly. Ok, cancel lock, lock enemy again, fire, it still goes after friendly, which is NOT EVEN CLOSE to the enemy. Okay, radar off, missile still tracks. boom, teamkill. The game itself isn’t working properly, how can I be accountable for killing someone with radar missile, which should be canceled if I turn radar off, but it still tracks? And it tracks absolutely wrong target, which isn’t even locked??? IT’s just against the logic how it should work. I had MANY of those. Randomly killing some random enemy or friendly planes.
Just be more careful when launching missiles. You also have guns that you can use to take down enemy planes too.
Severe cases, exactly. Which comprises anything xenophobic, racist, hate speech.
I fly head-first into furballs on A points in air sim and have no issues with blue-on-blue. Sure, I do sometimes mistake a bomber for the enemy but even that’s been rare enough that I havn’t gotten any punishment.
Don’t shoot if friendly is close to the enemy, keep wing clearance when flying and don’t all chase the same guy. Multiple planes chasing 1 enemy is wasteful anyway - break off and approach from another angle or cover your friendly against a reversal, don’t greed. Two planes flying smart makes reversals almost impossible while two planes fighting for the same position means you can force them to shoot each other or collide.
In air RB, you even got name tags from a good distance so not there’s not even a chinese p-38 to throw you off (I specifically mention p-38 as it’s a very unique and recognizable silhouette).
To be fair - I am not sure if there are easy answers to rather complex questions.
Off-topic
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Even tap water and other non-alcoholic beverages are prone to have a variety of known and assumed / controversial & disputed side effects - either from the water / beverage itself or from the plastic bottles.
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Just remember the claim that water pollution would turn frogs gay. Was actually true. Same as drinking from water bottles when they were exposed to UV / sunlight - connected to killing your fertility…
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Sure you find paid studies that dismiss this as nonsense. A short reminder: The same kind of studies said smoking does not harm your body - or vaccinations vs the latest pandemic virus are absolute harmless…
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In other words: God knows from where these crazy idea come…
My own theory is that gaijin:
- Wants to reduce toxicity within the player base
- Wants to protect rookies at high tiers doing base bombing in Air RB
- Sees team killing as a problem (after years of ignoring it)
- Wants to close a minor legal risk (GE paid boosters lost when tkd)
This means:
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From a pure marketing perspective it is quite easy to understand that unpunished team killing is not supporting the sale of high priced jets. If those jets can be used without any advanced skill sets just for bombing bases in Air RB they are perfectly tailored to satisfy new players.
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If the lack of deterrence for committing team kills in the past encouraged low skill pilots to kill each other on their race to bases, they lost SL for the team kill, but they kept the RP. So how will you support your jet sales or ensure that your customers are happy if you don’t protect them?
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Less team kills means less toxicity - and reduced frustration levels for all.
Imagine they would accumulate grammar mistakes or missing punctuation to your team kill counter…
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I laughed harder than I should have at this
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Even as this is rather off-topic: GMs are just humans - and are entitled to have bad days too. 10 strikes and you have a perma ban. But u can appeal to get the ban revoked - after 3 months. It worked for me last year this way…
As a funny sidenote:
I was accused of insulting a large portion of the player base - just by mentioning IQ statistics. I mean if 10-15% of citizens of a specific nation have an IQ of 83 or less there might be a chance that some of them find a way to play wt. Don’t cite such statistics if your counterpart has the same citizenship - there is a high probability to face a lack of humor…
Yes it can be revoked, how did you do yours ? My reply to ask for a revoke was a bit ambivalent and lacked any answers as to how to proceed, except maybe by groveling it seemed, so I left it as it is not an especially welcome feature in the game.
Ohh yeah you look at the bell curve for IQ and every nation has 10-15% of not the sharpest tools in the box, but do not dare to point out this empirical, factual piece of evidence !!!
Also true a lot of people have no sense of humor, or they have never been to those dark times and places where that type of humor, gallows humor I believe it is called, can be one way to cope with it all.
You might have noticed that i created this thread and invested a lot of time to bundle this topic as it annoys me like hell and affects a lot of Air RB players - together with victims of area bombing in Ground RB.
Therefore it would be great if you would consider to stay on topic.
Thx in advance!
To your question: Hidden as off-topic:
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I challenged every chat ban before the perma ban (why, which wording, etc.) - and escalated things to actual gaijin employees rather quickly.
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I even argued that in every law based country (no matter if based on common law or civil law) you have the right to retaliate without punishment if your response (=reaction to an insult with an insult) is on the same or a lower level.
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So even if gaijin was factually correct (i got 2 chat bans revoked) with their punishments and the final perma ban, i was told that i could appeal after 3 months.
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The CM Orson_ES was helpful and i am sure that my rather clean record in the old and new forum was helpful too.
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I mean guys muted in the old forum had full access to the new version - and i saw recently that one of my “special friends” with a new yt channel got away with a temp forum ban for racist/nazi remarks.
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So it depends on you…
No, time passed, as well as comportment in the game since the ban happened (taking into account also other offenses in this time) matters. Groveling serves nothing at all.
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And what case is not severe? There are no explanations, nothing. Gaijin did extremely poor job explaining their rules, punishments. Not even talking about game mechanics, which are not described at all, just figure out yourself lol.
You mean the rule about not teamkilling?
Like in what PvP game teamkilling is not being punished?
Should Gaijin give You the list of rules like “Don’t teamkill” or “Don’t ram others” everytime You start the match?
Like You haven’t already accepted the rules by creating the account right?
God, after getting my master degree, the teamkillers crying on the forum is the best thing that have happened in last few days.
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Let the team killers be offended!
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