If you jump into a vehicle, just to be able to frontally pen an IS-4M in a full uptier you basically trade it for being a much more effective vehicle.
A Jpz 4-5 is simply never going to be as effective as a Tiger II H, even when it can pen much more vehicles from the front.
So that argument doesn’t work.
You can either play tank X and get 5 kills and then get killed by an IS-4M,
or you can play tank Y, kill one vehicle then an IS-4M and then get killed by a M18.
It’s much better to kill as many enemy vehicles as possible instead of trying to kill a single vehicle that might be the best in the enemy team.
No it doesn’t. The only valid argument for BR is a vehicles efficency. And the difference between a Churchill Mk VII using solid shot or APHE would be night and day.
There’s nothing to discuss. Vehicles get buffed, they move up in BR as soon as data shows that the vehicle is now much better then before.
Also why are we talking about the Churchill Mk VII in the T-54 topic?
I thought this was the give APHE to Churchill Mk VII thread.
It doesn’t matter if you are less mobile if you are able to press W and not be killed by most enemies. It is super easy to not get flanked.
I don’t understand how the maus would be balanced at 7.0. It’s nearly impossible to kill if the maus sees you first. I will win any frontal engagment at 7.0, and it would be impossible to kill for 85% of the tanks it faces or more.
did some threads get merched of why are the past roughly 70 posts mostly about mid tier tanks?
if this really was a merge, thats some awful moderating gaijin.
Not relate to your message however I would recommend updating the title and putting a - between cause you are kinda started confusing people.
T-54->Russian or T54E1->US.
There’s a reason why the Slash is important. It’s to differentiate between the vehicles.
Other you start confusion. Cause sometimes numbers are used for other vehicles in another country. Ex:
Japanese Type-95 Ha-Go and the Chinese Type-95 SPAAG
has pretty similar guns and armour to the vehicles at it’s br. The uptiering in 7.7-8.0 russia is unbearable because of 8.7 players. Its just a problem with the matchmaker.
I’m pretty sure the gun depression, the 5.9 deg/s horizontal traverse and the long reload has been mentioned multiple times in the thread. I myself have at least said it twice.
So am I supposed to believe that you actually read what people have said, and aren’t just a drone coming to give your uneducated opinion?
I mean, it has the best gun at the BR, and it basically has the best armor of an MBT at the br (not that the armor even does anything for MBTs at this br). Its also a bad thing to bring up a problem but to not provide a solution.
It also has GLACIAL turret rotation and no gun depression. So that gun is rather difficult to get on target. And at the SAME BR you have the Type 69 with both better turret rotation and a stab. APFSDS is similar to the T54’s apds and the 400 pen HEAT is the same.
You admit its armor is largely irrelevant as almost all 7.7+ tanks are looking at 300mm+ pen then hold that up as a draw point to the tank… interesting.
The solution is to downteir the tank to 7.7. How is that not obvious? Again, none of the regularly played 6.7s are going to have difficulty when the T54 cupola is that weak. ALL of your talking points have been gone over and over and over but you apparently can’t read them.
APFSDS are near universally better postpen than APDS due to rod length. Type 69 is far, far more lethal than the T54. Angled performance is FAR better for apfsds and is reflected in the numbers you gave. Flat pen is nearly irrelevant at 8.0 as nearly no tank uses flat armor in areas you should be shooting. I’ll take postpen over flat pen numbers. Try playing a conq with its 480 pen than regularly fails to one-shot UFPs and you get the idea pretty quick.
Type 71 APDS is an absolute abomination and if you’re actually using it you have to be some kind of a masochist. Also you should take a better look at the picture, it literally shows that russian APDS has better angled penetration than the chinese APFSDS (it’s also much better than the APDS that type 59 has)
No? The 8.0 Magach 6A not only has superior armor, but it fires M728 - which is a very potent APDS, modeled with late modifiers, that doesn’t shatter. It’s basically APFSDS, and you see the same thing on the Chieftains. A far superior shell than anything the T-54 fires.
And the 6A also has 10 times better gun handling… With -10 degrees of gun depression. And a 3 times faster turret traverse…
This is all at the same BR, by the way.
