Yeah, it has no issues with it’s UFP.
Has yet to happen to me. If/when I decide to touch ground again. I’ll try it and get a clip, but its always blocked the round for me.
Difference its that you can kill the ZTZ with an autocannon to the front low plate chasis.
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The T-80UD is by no means worse then the T-80B, which is a 10.7 vehicle in its own right. So why it sits at a lower BR is beyond me. The T-80UD could easily be 11.0, given that its at the very least on par with the M1 base model and could easily be better in the right hands (I would make the same argument about the TURMS- as I have both the Abrams and the Turms and I believe I currently have a better if not equal KDR in the TUrms) so.
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Hence why I said turret, aka the place people aim the majority of the time.
5mm of kinetic protection btw
Bro gets mogged by a 9.3 T-72A with some ERA and thermals
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M1 has the same stats at 10.7 as TURMS does at 10.3, so I doubt they should share the same BR.
HAHAHAHA thats funny
sorry did you just suggest 2S38 should be 10.0 as well?
Well, he’s not wrong really. The only thing I disagree is that Kontact1 provides KE protection
For MBTs, Both the UD and Turms have nearly identical weakspots.
The situation changes when it’s a high penning round like the m900
10.3 is a fair BR placement for the Turms. The UD on the other hand…
everything has amazing armour if you use M774
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this sounds like an AI paragraph
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aL paragraph?
What even is this discussion.
Ignoring the fact that t72 turms and 2s38 are perfectly fine at their br and most certainly do not need a buff, why suggest moving them down? Moving modern tanks down in br only works whenever they are overtiered, not when they are underpowered. We should always be looking to move things up in br, never move things down.
By moving things up I mean moving entire br ranges up while keeping underperforming vehicles at their br. There is already a shit ton of compression in WT and we don’t need to make it worse by lowering the br of tanks that underperform.
And just to be absolutely clear, the T72 turms and the 2s38 are not underperforming. At least not by the vehicles being underpowered. (The OP has like a .7k/d in the 2s38 for the record)
Lol, they both should be 16.7, as any other russian vehicle
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I agree, 6.7 BR is perfect for both the 2S38 and TURMS-T.
I didn’t say 6.7 I said 24.3
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TURMS is overtiered.
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My bad, you are right, 4.3 is a much more appropriate BR for them both 👍
