T-14 Armata mod 2021

wdym unfair they added the challenger 3 before it even entered service

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I know, but to add the T-14 early is not wise (for now atleast), they may coused a bit of jealousy towards USSR mains and Gaijin itself being called sorts of things, you know how salty people can be, don’t you?

Besides, some of the things for the T-14 are mostly still classified, so we better wait till some of the things are known

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yeah lol.

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It isnt the ch3…

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I’m not sure if adding the T-14 would be a good idea. The current gameplay loop is you aim for weakspots on the turret/hull in order to kill your opponents, but the T-14 has an unmanned turret, and the frontal hull would be near impervious to most current tanks rounds. The turret basically has no armor and if you sit hull down you’ll be near unkillable and just have to repair your turret. The only way this tank would die is from flanking shots or bombing it at that point.

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As I understand where you’re coming from, there’s not much of a choice after the T-80BVM (2023) unless they plan on adding sidegrades or prototypes such as the Black Eagle, there’s always the possibility of adding Ukraines post Soviet era developments which could delay such additions for sure.

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Shoulde be somthing “similar” to the Obj 187 since it’s the most “suitable option” but we still have many choices:

  • Add something basicly copied pasted happenning in USA/France/Japan like T-80BVM/T-90M/T-72B3 latest model in the conflict
  • Add a prototype with the same approach like UK right now is using hull of the T-90/T-80 with Burlak turret and better round (or even better gun like the 2A82/A1)
  • Or we just halt and wait for a minor tweaked like T-90M/T-72B3 (2021/2023 version) got buff reload speed like T-80BVM since BVM is from T-80B and the realoader is the same as T-80 but they buff it on T-80U/BVM but not on T-80B.

Eh, I dont think gaijins gonna touch anything Ukrainian for a bit due to the very… nature of it…

Probably, but I can see them caving in on it eventually.

Theres also the problem on wether or not to place it in the USSR tree…

That’s up to Gaijin, they’re a Russian company so do with that what you will. The nation being added will cause issues no matter how you do it, so there’s a chance it will be used as a filler nation.

They took a reload based on Greek trials, I suppose it has something to do with FCS, or maybe its slightly different and better, I don’t know for sure as I haven’t looked into that topic completely, but I might.

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It has better reload due to a better autoloader being used. Source I found states its reload was improved from 7.1 to 5.9 sec, but that source is just a website so I doubt I can anyhow credit it.

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Big NO on this suggestion.

I am generally in favor of prototypes and even concept vehicles - as long as they’re viable in terms of production capability.
But the T-14 is not that. Russia did not demonstrate the capability to produce such a vehicle.

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ye while there is around 200+ of them “no capability to produce” its just expensive to produce

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200 what?

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you know when its about russia I like to go with what we see.
We saw 8 T-14s, they have 8 T-14s.

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At the moment, when the western fictional vechicles comes (with the fictional capabilities), I say yes for T-14 Armata. But now its a hard NO. I think we have enough Russian fantasy vehicles and stats in the game (2s38 and a lot of obj. and concept, and so on…)…