T-14 Armata mod 2021

What we don´t have is the basic info to calculate penetration (penetrator dimensions+velocity). But the program itself is very real and there are written sources about it.

well if u have data regarding it, u could share it and we could definitvely discuss some values of it

Well I did, when a patent drawing depicting the round was published I shared it in this very thread. It was months ago.

this one?

Playing devil’s advocate here, this is very much something russia would do. Personally I think that when the T-14 does come to WT it should be based on its “theoretical” specs - simply because arguing over these semantics is dumb, and it gives russia a vehicle that can compete with the really modern NATO stuff.

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not really. neither the cannon its supposed to have nor the shell for the current cannon exist yet.

i mean that isnt the denial route, the denial route would be acting like a single picture from a very untrustworthy country proves anything regarding the argument being discussed.

and as i already state before in this thread the claims on the capabilities of the T14 protection are so absurd that unless they actively see combat or we see some proper testing footage they should be completely and utterly dismissed.

they claim to be able to spoof every guided munition with soft kill, and if that doesnt work that Aps can not only intercept Apfsds munition but it also every other guided munition(pretty good for an aps but nothing crazy, but im not done yet) the 50 cal on the roof? they claim its accurate enough to be used as an impromptu CIws, im not kidding.

to be fair the style from the engine is very unconventional in and on itself.

Yeah but the original post is a bit older. Bottom line is 775x25mm penetrator seems a very safe estimation (although it can be easily bigger than that) but we have nothing concrete on muzzle velocity yet.

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Honestly measuring an apfsds based off what u can calculate in Photoshop using a drawing as base it’s extremely unreliable

What do you think the penetration values in War Thunder would look like?

Depends on what tanks other nations get. But around 850mm sounds right to me.

Wouldn’t the 292s penetration be higher?

It depends on balance and what other top tier the other nations get. I believe that T-14 will come first with Svinets and if the tank doesn’t perform well, then it will get Vacuum.

I’d definitely like to see the new ATGMs.

Well the Sokol-V wouldn’t be broken

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That one’s infrared guided right, for anti tank/helicopter.

And just two days ago we got the first pic ever of it, the real thing. I’m no at home right now so I can’t share but wil do when I get back.

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Hopefully sub 500mm. Because all modern ammo is apparently crippled in game except for some random modified American export tanks at 9.7

Definitely not, the penetrator is around 775mm in length, compare that to what we have now. For example DM53 is around 745mm in length and Ke 2020 neo is around 760mm in length apparently.

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