i mean those were designed on the purpose of defeating a lot of Chemical and well they do that very well for their small size, some are quite unique like CLARA ERA not protecting against high caliber kinetic projectiles and only small calibers like 30 40 or 57 due to the way it works, by just reacting to heat warheads and serving as cushion for kinetic projectiles
The russians love chest-thumping their equipment, if they had an actual working system they would make a feature-length movie showing it, making it highly unlikely they got it to work.
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So, Russia can’t make it work, but North Korea with likely Russian assistance (or alternatively designs stolen from Russia) can? ‘They haven’t proudly shown it off so it must be a failure’ isn’t a very good analysis.
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More likely with chinese help since they are closer, and the chinese have outpaced the russians when it comes to technology in almost every single field, so it’s completely possible that the norks figured it out before the russians.
North Korea is definitely not closer to China than they are to Russia. Some would assume they are but upon closer analysis they aren’t, but they are great allies.
It’s just a bunch of rage posting lol
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Didn’t know being unsure if a system works or not after getting a picture which shows nothing and “other people said it does” as definitive proof for it is called rageposing now but what do I know. If anything you pushing people away with your inability to prove what you claim and then getting rightfully more sceptical is what enables your so called “rageposting”.
I don’t really think my inability to inhabit Russian state secrets will push people away. This is a brand new vehicle still undergoing trials, the system wouldn’t be on the vehicle if they didn’t intend for it to work, some individuals seem to think so (not my problem)
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Excuse me but who the hell doesn’t? It’s called marketing, and if I understand correctly, the Pentagon spends millions on movies and video games to sell American weapons. If you have questions about whether it works, take a look at whos the largest exporter of military equipment.
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Then don’t make a claim that you can’t prove. Afganit could very much be a fully fledged system, but nobody here could ever know if it is or not and what it’s paramiters are and should as such not make any claims about it’s abilities. You claimed that “it exists and people should definitely find a way to cope with it” without being able to prove it, which is the entire reason I even jumped into this thread. And yes manufacturers do sometimes place systems on a vehicle even if they don’t intend for them to work, like how the Chally 2 Streetfighter has mockup ATGMs as to visualize what they could do given more time and money. Afganit could very well be in the exact same boat for all we know since we have no proof of it working.
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Where did I make a claim?
There’s images of it on a testing ground which is obviously undergoing testing of its active protection system hence the barrier to block incoming projectiles in case of failure in front of the vehicle and black residue around the vehicle from projectile blasts.
Or you can go down the denial route and believe that they just planted that stuff around the vehicle it made it look like that’s what they’re doing. Your call, makes no difference.
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I swear to god if it has the SLA engine im going to hunt down Lazerpig myself
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It won’t. The engine just has the same style, completely different engine.
see, thats the issue with russia. They always lie and exaggerate about the capabilities while nato under reports, which shows in game bc gaijin takes the “official” information at face value
you forgot germany…
they have to go hypotetical if they want a competitive vehicle, because if they dont do that what you get is a piece of crap. it wouldnt even be as good as t80bvm or t90m.
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I refrained from mentioning too specifics in case people wanted to go off on me, but yea, it would be a piece of shit honestly lol.
I don’t think the Armata will be bad, it should have a much better dart rivaling that of M829A4, penetrator just slightly longer and ATGMs, UV missile warning system and the possibility of having a better reverse speeds.
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issues is that we dont have clear info of both, so claiming it has a better dart when we dont have concrete info of the M829A4 and the vacuum 1 dosent even exist as there has been absolutely 0 info regarding this shell
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Someone on here actually knows a lot about it, I’ll have to figure out who it is again.
the closest info i got on M829A4 was on bttr rather funny Below The Turret Ring: M829A3 APFSDS penetration power - common internet estimation failures?
but regarding the existance of vacum 1 or vacum 2 its doubtful due to the lack of an actual proper proof, either pictures, videos, or reports of tests whatsoever