T-14 Armata mod 2021

Yes made by Microtec

You may be referring to warhead tests. single EFP-based warheads are quite capable at lowering APFSDS penetration by 10’s of % - at short range engagements.
Fragment-free warheads are also capable of such results at longer range engagements.

Big issue - this system was reportedly bought by Turkey but only in its light variant which cannot intercept APFSDS.

So far the only manufacturer that claims its APS can defeat APFSDS is Elbit but even then admittedly not with very high reliability. Rafael which is the most successful in the field, explained at IAV 2021 that sensor and computational tech are just not there yet when it comes to discriminating APFSDS projectiles. Tuning to detect them reportedly results in excessive false positives which are incredibly dangerous for a tank surrounded by infantry.

Had it been a full system tested, it could have been quite a breakthrough, but I suspect that just like Rafael did, it’s only warhead tests.

Go to 9:43 for 3BM22

Perhaps your right but its still a decrease

Back before the SVO, Arena-M pre 2022 version is the standard for it, Afganit isunder developing, if Gaijin want to add T-14, they can just use Arena-M.

Right now, APS for APFSDS is a no go.

Black Knight has its Iron Fist APS which can degrade APFSDS rounds in War Thunder.

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Was Arena ever installed on a T-14?

Not that I know of.

Well then it can’t be added to an in-game T-14.

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IIRC there is a pattern for each of them, included 72B3, 90M/MS, otherwise i don’t think BVM got it.
The last image of afganit tested is back from 2021 in Kubinka but the guy who posted just left it without any specific description.
With T-14 designation, i don’t think they consisder APFSDS as a “threat” to APS since with current conflict, they will tune it to more about FPV/Drone

No, Arena is more designed to be mounted on the more conventional Russian tanks, Armata wouldn’t get this because it was designed with Afaganit built into the vehicle itself.

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New Russian MBT

“We know these stats aren’t real, but we made our inferences from them anyway.”
No wonder over 3rd of voters are against this parade monster. Nobody wants to see another “we think Russian manpads cannot be worse than Western ones” from devs. Better just not have it at all if it’s going to have dream performance.

Another utter failure to implement systems with too little official data would be Vikhr missiles. Limits of such guidance systems were well known, but it took many years for developers to address that issue. Meanwhile there are still systems related to WWII vehicles, which they refuse to implement into the game because we haven’t managed to flood them with enough data and of course systems which are implemented in lacking state.

Too often things are just slammed to our face with a devblog and they are still not working in devserver. That usually means they haven’t tested how the thing really works in game and if it’s balanced at all. Is it too much to ask for them to be bit more open and actually answer to educated feedback?

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But sadly, that is the future of Russia. All 11.7+br level equipment in the future Soviet tree are either Putin’s parade toys or prototypes.

In the end, Gaijin has no choice but to stop updating the highest ranks or implement these toys.

What choice do you think they will make?

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Name a nation which can get modern vehicles that aren’t “parade toys” or expo dummies.

All the actual mass-production kit is marginally modified 80’s vintage.

Even KF-51 will likely be a turret mounted on a 2a4 hull, if it’s even procured at all.

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Yet again, need to state that there is no valid argument for not adding the tank.
If people question it’s capabilities, just know that the Maus, E-100, object 292 and object 279 were never finished projects, and the T-14 is in active service.
If people claim it will be too strong, just look at the F-16, Su-27, 2S38, panzer Vs and the object 292.
However we CAN delay adding it until reliable stats are out or so that we can add suggestions with higher priority(e.g. Chengdu J-10, more missile boats in naval, F/A-18 etc) and add it later.
would like to see the t-14 one day though

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Not surprising that I come back to this suggestion and it spiraled off topic

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Or theyre too expensive and viewed as not worth the price

How will it be balanced tho.
If it would have hull weak enough to be penetrated with damage, that would be a distress. And without that, it wll be OP asf as the turret is unhabitant.
…tho, to play against Sweden, USSR now needs something for sure…

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Overpressure