Swiss hornets loadouts

9M is fully compatible with the aircraft. AIM-9P-5 can be suggested via a report.

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GJ deliberately opted for a mix-n-match Swiss setup.

F-5E:

  • Getting A/G ammunition too.
  • Getting Flz Lwf LL 63/80 (AIM-9P-3) ‘SIWA’
  • Missing Flz Lwf LL 63/91 (AIM-9P-5) ‘SIWA’ which was used and documented
  • Wrong fuel tanks
  • Wrong RWR AN/ALR-46 instead of AN/ALR-87

Mirage IIIS C70:

  • Getting Flz Lwf LL 63/75 (AIM-9E-3) ‘SIWA’
  • Getting Flz Lwf LL 63/80 (AIM-9P-3) ‘SIWA’
  • Missing Flz Lwf LL 63/91 (AIM-9P-5) ‘SIWA’ which was used and documented
  • Wrong fuel tanks
  • Wrong radar. Currently no TARAN-18, but Cyrano
  • Missing IP-1310/ALR RWR
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Man, I already suggested that. The response was “not a bug”

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F-18s are capable of using AIM-9Ls and AIM-9Ms.
And the Swiss F-18 was made air to ground capable within the last 2 decades [at least].

What you want is to artificially nerf Germany.

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What I wanted was a correctly implemented aircraft, aim9p-5’s would be a new missile unique to the Swiss hornet and cas just ruins the game anyway.

I have nothing against it getting aim120c-5’s, just against it getting a bunch of stuff it never carried.

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Would also like to add that the Premium, Swiss F/A-18C is sporting the expanded, 120 count, countermeasure pods at the same BR as the US’s nearly identical F/A-18C which does not. Said hornet also gets the AN/AAS-38B while the other premium hornet sports the earlier AN/AAS-38A.

Along with this The Swiss hornet also gets E-GBUs while, once again, the same premium hornet in the US tree does not.

The only + the US hornet, at the same BR, for the same price, gets over the Swiss hornet is walleyes, which are very much so not worth all of the bonuses that the Swiss hornet rocks at the same exact BR for the same exact price.

Right now, the Swiss hornet is just flat out a better buy as it is given all the upgrades that were requested and denied for the US premium hornet when it was introduced.

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That’s actually an excellent example, if the us hornet could technically carry all of the same stuff why is it only given to the one that didn’t carry any of it?

I try not to cry bias but after smin basically said “we’ll give it whatever we want” i’m starting to think it’s bias, the German eurofighter shouldn’t have brimstones either but it’s the same thing.

Its very curious to me that this premium arrives with a new tree and all the items requested for another premium that is nearly identical in every way but not popular anymore.

Its almost like suggestions are being withheld arbitrarily to drive sales.

That’s a lot on the Arcady side.

So ever plane that could fire the AIM 9 M is considdered for the AIM 9 X (bc it has literally a compatibility mode, emulating being an AIM 9 M for the plane)?
And that uses the same plug (32 pin apparently) then AIM 9 L

So considdering the AIM 9 X for the F14 A etc?
This is highly bs.
We need higher standards for considdering.
Like the missile being tested on the plane.

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I think that actually goes all the way down to the aim9p, so f104 with aim9x’s are on the table.

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Here my report:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/nvKnRrFumOvr

Hopefully it doesn’t get closed because of not enough info: It’s weekend, will be a while to get my sources mobilized… ;-)

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@Schindibee @Smin1080p_WT

Given the statements made prior, would ya’ll prefer me to create a new thread and vote about having both premium hornets get merged so both parties get everything available, or would ya’ll be fine with that discussion occurring here?

Operating off of this quote

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Your report was unfortunately a mash of several things, asking for some to be removed and some added. It should be one issue per report. The response was based on the removal you suggested.

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Not at all.

Its however very clear the F/A-18C can fire AIM-9M and is in keeping with the current top tier aircraft we have in game.

I’m a bit surprised that IRIS-T and AIM-9X were only added on ground units this time, whereas they originally were aircraft ordonnance and would be viable for e.g. late Hornets, Typhoons…

Is that something still to come, or at a later stage? Do you have anything you can already share on this?

IRIS-T and AIM-9X are very much above and beyond what we currently have in terms of IR missiles for air. So they shouldn’t be expected super soon for aviation.

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Same thing happened already with the tc1’s on the antelope. Though those aren’t actually great.

Premium F/A-18C unnecessary asymetry - Dev Server “Leviathans” / General Discussion - Dev Server - War Thunder — official forum

Will toss this up here solely for the sake of the poll so folks can vote on it.

Another loadout diference is the low-drag-pylon that was specially developped for swiss air force, allowing to mount AIM-9P and AIM-120B on any station, including wingtip-

Given what @Smin1080p_WT said, i will file a bug report for each individual dev error.

  • For the 120B i have documentation of the procurement BR92 and BR2011
  • For the low-drag-pylons I have photos that confirm it. I won‘t get ghe blueprints from R**G
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[DEV] LL Lwf AIM-120B missing on Swiss Early Hornet // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] “Low drag pylon” missing for Swiss Hornet early // Gaijin.net // Issues
[DEV] Swiss F-5E missing Flz Lwf LL 63/91 (AIM-9P-5) Sidewinder // Gaijin.net // Issues

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