the bkan is quite good and extremely funny to use, the strv 74 is fine
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Guys come check the Object 120 can pen top tier tanks from the side, i think i should take it as a last resort !
Again, and not sure I should give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re NOT trolling, but the caveat is here that sweden does not have a better option at 6.7, while russia has about 3 dozen options between the object 120 and top tier. That said, YES the object 120 COULD be used effectively as a backup at a much higher BR than it’s at! Just perhaps not top tier.
I’d rather go with the 2S1, unlike the Bkan it can’t be killed when you don’t even have a line of sight to your enemy.
you do you, imo the bkan is quite good and fun, i probably have a better k/d on the 2s1 but due to the fact that i had a really good win rate but i had a better time with the he vt shooting down planes
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Man i am honestly tired of talking to you, not gonna bother my self anymore your disagreement won’t change the fact that it’s coming anyway so yeah.
sweden does need it
unlike you i played 6.7 sweden and it doesn’t work like you stated and that’s my final words.
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you sound very reasonable to talk to! I guess we both won’t make the mistake of trying to talk to the other in the future won’t we?
Yeah, sometimes it’s capable of a lot more in some situations with its ungodly reload, but I don’t like the tradeoff of a horribly exposed autoloader.
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My guy, the Tiger 2 they got was not heavily damaged, and only needed some maintenance, which every tank needs, in order to get it running again. They literal did driving tests. It only became heavily damaged AFTER they used it for armor analysis against the guns they had and for target practice. Also there was never a forum suggestion for it, so if it gets added it’s entirely the developers idea, plus the Swedish Tech Tree actually needs it for the 6.7 lineup so that there’s an actually complete lineup. Of the 2 Swedish tanks at 6.7, one is a sniper, barely as it has no optics zoom, and as a sniper it’s very situational, one is a flanker, so also very situational, and both are made of paper, so if you get hit you’re basically screwed. Trust me, I know from experience.
Sincerely,
USthunder
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don’t bother with trying to convince them, these people will never get convinced that the King tiger 2 is actually a copy paste that is needed.
At least only one nation has a tech-tree Tiger.
- Approximately 75% have a tech tree Sherman of some degree, sometimes multiple. The other 25% have a premium Sherman of some degree.
- To a slightly lesser degree the same could be said for Stuarts, M10/M18/M36, Patton’s, etc.
Personally I don’t think any Axis nation should have Allied tanks in those lower BR’s.
In all honesty the people in this forum that are strongly disagreeing with what is currently a single non in house manufactured tank being added for the case of a “balanced” line up should actually provide a vehicle that can be added instead of just effectively saying “no”. At that rate you are no longer having a debate/conversation, you are just being disagreeable and argumentative for the sake of being so, kinda defeats the purpose of having an opinion when that itself is based on a clear bias, which you are ignoring when stating that everyone else that is for the addition is biased themselves…
For the case of Sweden due to their actual history the only “tanks” built in and around the same time that the Tiger II was made that aren’t already in the game, for comparisons sake were literally lightly armoured transport trucks or a light tank with a damn machine gun for its main armament, not really something that can be added to the game with the clear conscious of “balance” actually meaning anything.
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be cause there is no other alternitives.
i like how other people complain about the fact that,“not all nations should get lineups and top tier planes bro” then why japan got the F16AJ? why germany has rank 6 7 and 8? why italy is getting a gripen C? why the Uk is getting gripen C too?
Then I guess the conversation ends at “if they didn’t have it in service it’s not gonna happen”, Sweden will be the first TT in the game to outright stop having vehicles added to its ground tree between rank 4 - rank 8. /s
You know, until Gaijin can get the info for the new generation of tanks that are still actively being made and are classified. Which in turn are actually top tier vehicles that are completely irrelevant to the current conversation.
But Swedish mains ask for the world to kow-tow to them you know. /s
Absolutely not. There no argument to be made for Sweden to get a King Tiger; Israel and Japan are more lacking across the board and i don’t see them getting random vehicles for the sake of gameplay.
“Buh S w e d e n doesn’t has a proper 6.7 lineup” Well, Israel doesn’t has a light tank between 8.0 and 11.7
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Also correct, and they should get a more fleshed out TT, I entirely agree.
To be fair I don’t think anyone that thinks the Tiger II should go to Sweden also thinks that other trees shouldn’t be more fleshed out, I wanna play both France and Israel but as their trees currently are I don’t wanna invest my time into them as I don’t find either fun.
(Although in Frances case it’s due to the obscenely bad BR placement for their mid tier vehicles)
However as this is a discussion about the tiger II the conversation has been about that, I’m sure there are other chats for those two issues as well and I would like for them to be fixed too.
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just be cause a nation is more lacking doesn’t mean a nation shouldn’t get something,
as i am seeing israel have very good Lineups accross all BR’s unlike the 6.7swedish lineup that barely has anything.
and 6.7 isn’t the only BR sweden is lacking in, 4.0-4.7 also
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You fail to see the point. Sweden is the biggest offender of getting random vehicles to fill their needs (Mi28A, T-80U, AHS, VIDAR or the copy-paste finnish line); they don’t deserve more of that (not at least when there are nations in a worse state)
as i am seeing israel have very good Lineups accross all BR’s
Lmao. Magach+Merkavas and nothing else (if you only play ground), VERY GOOD lineups.
and 6.7 isn’t the only BR sweden is lacking in, 4.0-4.7 also
All nations have gaps (even the big ones), there nothing wrong with it. Japanese TT proved that-even with massive gaps- a TT can be fun if the developers care to add good vehicles/diversity.