I’m wondering when does Gaijin create 5.7 br pack for Sweden, French, Japan, Italy like they did for USSR, Germany, USA, United Kingdom.
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Probably never. The amount of new players you can attract with a second russia pack is much higher than the amount you’d get from any minor nation (not to mention how unique vehicles are few and far between for some of these nations at mid tier)
These nations unfortunately are always at lower priority, same thing as with squadron vehicles or just regular additions (apart maybe from subtree introduction updates).
Gaijin wants money now and doesn’t want to invest much in nations which aren’t that popular at the moment.
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Which is, unfortunately, a self fulfilling prophecy
It’s clear, especially with Sweden and France, that there are tons of missing designs (several hundred on the French side of things) that haven’t been added yet
But once a subtree gets added the rate of new designs falls off a cliff
As nations get fewer unique additions, there are fewer reasons for new players to start the tree or buy premiums, and the cycle continues
On a more material note, it’s a little tougher for some nations to find BRs for which there are:
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Two domestically designed vehicles, at least one a tank; and
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A domestically designed SPAA 0-0.7 BR below
This is mostly a function of missing vehicles from minor nations, but Japan for example does struggle on the domestic SPAA side in the mid tiers
There are a few suggestions in this topic here:
I’d like to see a variant of this pack for France:
But I think the ERC Kriss-20 might be better at 7.0.
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You’re wrong—the number of Japanese vehicles that haven’t been released in the game is ridiculous.
Honestly i think this is most likely going to remail with the 4 largest, im stunned britain got treated like the big 3 here, still a very small amount of the playerbase vs the main trio.
these are kind of a replacement for the older starter packs in a sense, trying to get newbies away from the rank 1 SPAA car sealclubbers and into a healthier BR. Didnt really work as i only see veteran players using them ngl
Please enlighten me why we want premium packs with unique paywalled vehicles? We are not discussing what isn’t in the game because the vast majority of 3 premium vehicle packs have had c and p vehicles only (except IS-2M, a worse IS-2, and Russian Hanomag, a slightly modified c and p). Getting them to release new vehicles for the tech tree is a whole other problem, let alone premium reskins
Edit: and how many unreleased japanese vehicles (with sutiable data) would fit at 5.7 anyway?
But more novices don’t necessarily mean more money; a professional can easily buy anything, like a Swedish or even Israeli vehicle (even if it’s just a big Yahu)
There are many more newer players than experienced players. Hence why the average kills per spawn is lower than 1. And even then, there are more big 3 experienced players than other nation experienced players
Sources?
My rather dookie .76 kps in air is listed as better than 79% of players and my .89 kps is ground is better than 85% (statshark) therefore…
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That can be solved by the addition of missing stuff, like Italy can have one of its M113 AA prototypes also copied to a premium pack with existing Breda 501 and Semovente 75/46. Although for Italy the best would be probably to form it from existing Turan III, M42 Contraereo and Semovente 90/53 or smth with R3 and AUBLs.
I also think that it isn’t completely necessary for all vehicles to be domestic, like France can use Sherman Jumbo for example.
Agreed, but like I said earlier, once the dev’s start to abandon a tree, its a cycle of more and more imported copy paste and less and less domestic content (see Sweden, France, and Japan to differing extents).
I think it’s pretty clear that domestic designs, especially on the store, are pretty important, as they show off what makes the trees unique.
For example, you can look at this analysis, but France, the only tree without a domestic ground premium at Rank VII, is the only tree with less premium games at rank VII than at rank V.
To add to it, the Sherman Jumbo is a poor BR for a French triple pack regardless as 2/3rds of the French 5.7 vehicles are American (M36 and M4a3e2).
5.3 is slightly better with the ARL-44 and EBR-1951, there’s an argument to be made about some over tiering there.
That’s why I think that the 7.0 Line up, as shown below, should be a better bet for a French pack. It’s all French, it performs better at it’s BR, and it gives more ready access to one of France’s most well know armored cars (EBR-1954).
I’d reckon that more people would be excited to get another EBR-1954 for the French tree than there are people happy with how the BeNeLux tree has turned out.
Would a captured vehicle bundle be feasible? For example, a Korean War captured vehicle bundle.
Pretty big mismatch in BRs if you put the M26 in there
And on top of that I think the packs aught to show off the unique aspects of different nations where possible. When it was only rank III that was a little more difficult, but now that the triple packs are going further up in BR there’s a lot more flexibility for most trees
Except for M26 (6.7), all others are 5.7/4.0
Many countries do not have heavy tanks or have very few of them(China only has 3 IS-2s)（ In Sweden, there is only the Tiger II）
On paper sound impressieve but I think WT don’t need another capture verhicles like in USSR tech tree.
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Perhaps a captured vehicle pack would be more appropriate and more interesting than the C&V vehicle pack in the tech tree