My issue with sub-trees(oldest to newest):
South Africa:
Well, the most “unique”, it was never added for its uniqueness but to give the UK lights which in turn delayed the UK’s domestic lights like the CVRTs for years. On top of that for most of what I experienced, it’s just the worst of the UK but with wheels(to the point the first thing I enjoyed down that line was the Fox). On top of that the number of vehicles it has access to effectively ties it with Canada(making these two have the two most potential with vehicles they can get) out of the dominions and should have been its own independent tree.
Finland:
Finlands placement in Sweden is something no one has a problem with myself included. Its problem comes from somewhere else, Gaijin picking to add next to nothing but C&P for them. The Finnish sub should have been made up of its unique vehicles and modifications they had a ton of.
Hungary:
Well, Hungry did bring a few more unique vehicles it also destroyed Italy’s Western identity as a TT. This one showed the issues with picking sub-trees based on WW2. To top it off its airside not only didn’t really come with WW2 and was also all C&P. This And well I don’t have as much to say on this just that it should have been part of a V4/other type of Warsaw pact tree or even its tree own.
BeNeLux:
This is the current star of the show showing all the issues with sub-trees. Not only did France not need a sub-tree but the BeNeLux has a ton of unique vehicles. At the very least the sub-tree could have been close to 100% unique. Gaijin will claim it as unique due to giving to variants of UK/US and French planes but most people won’t see it that way. BeNeLux should have been added as a new nation because despite what Gaijin claim they do have enough(heck the entire reason it was proposed as a combined tree was to up the number of unique vehicles well also lowering the number of C&P while making sure there is enough for events and what not.)
India:
India has the same problem of bringing Eastern tech into Western nations. Mix with the fact that the UK already had a sub-tree making it more than full. Well, we have yet to see the full impact of this what little we have has been already bad enough. On top of that India has plenty of vehicles to pick from and should have been an Israeli-style TT.
(not yet fully confirmed)
Switzerland:
Germany being one of the 3 major nations is an already full tech tree with very little room. Heck, all it is being added for is its F-18, which is another sub-tree that just shows the true nature of the sub-trees. only existing to buff the host nation not present the sub-nation. At the end of the day, almost all of Switzerland’s stuff will end up as battlepass and event if this goes through. Swissernalnd should be it own tree/Alpine tree.
Thailand:
This could be the only other sub-tree that wouldn’t have issues. To top it off as far as I’ve seen they use mostly Western or Westernized equipment mostly keeping Japan’s identity.
As for the other ASEAN nations, I don’t agree with keeping them all together as a sub. instead, they should be split up(but each nation kept together) and given to nations where applicable.
To me, the current success rate of sub-trees has been (0.5+0.5)/5 which says a lot about the fact it only has a 1 out of 5 due to half success with sub-trees so far. It’s not looking good for the future, with the success rate only ever becoming 2 and the sub-tree number counting to go up with the rumoured future plans.
Something a bit personal but I’m not a fan of “combined trees” especially those with large numbers of nations like a “commonwealth tree”. And will always argue for these to be split up into as small as reasonable trees for nation counts. 3-4 nations in a tree are already pushing it for me 5+ nations and I feel are too many nations in a tree.
As for C&P, I personally don’t have a problem with them, themselves but the fact they are often added over/instead of domestic vehicles. Like sure, add a C&P folder underneath a domestic/unique equivalent but it should never be what comes first.
Overall the sub-tree system to me is a failure and unlikely to become a success unless they remake how sub-trees work into something like the Nation Folders here.
The other issue comes from Gaijin’s need to make every nation competitive and have a vehicle at the top BR in every game mode. And well making everyone competitive is something good it should be able to be done by fixing and making the nation’s unique stuff and removing the need for a top BR everything. So what if the nation MBT can’t be 12.0, make them 11.7 and below they don’t need to have a 12.0 tank.
