To add onto this, found another source that states the SEM 3s couldn’t self designate. This is from a book called “La saga du Super-Etendard”, had to use Google Translate since it’s in French obviously so it’s a bit janky.
http://air-defense.net/journal/book/le-super-etendard-modernisé-sem
We’re french we don’t get cool stuff don’t you know lmao
since Gaijin has chosen to model an SEM of at least standard 4 (Sherloc + Auf-2 dual bomb pylon) our attention should just focus on the consistency of the armament and equipment of standard 4 or even 5…
It is obvious, for example, that the Magic 2 missile must enter the inventory of the aircraft in game even if this should induce an increase in its BR.
Yea, at this point it really falls under the 10.7-11.3 subsonic attacker curse that most of the minor and some major nations’ tech tree attackers fall under.
More examples that are missing ordnance and suffer due to their airframe that i can think of right off the bat would be the A-7E ( lacks 9L/M and mavs, any kind) and Q-5L ( lack flares and aams entirely lol).
I believe they should be given that missing ordnance and moved up slightly, which, at this point in time, wouldn’t affect their MM at all ( same goes for SUE btw) and would also make them look attractive and historically accurate.
At the end of the day it’s the devs’ choice but if they’re aiming for historically accurate representations then it should be a must.
Why literally no one pays attention to the fact that already in the 3rd (also mirage2k C, 5F) French vehicle the flight path marker on the HUD does not work as it should?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/MYtT4Jcw0rCs
I reported back 7 months ago and they keep introducing vehicles with erroneous indications on the HUD. Please help me spread this here because no one cares on the .ru forum
If it was a Standard 4 then it should have it’s own independent pylons for CMs on pylons inboard of the weapons pylons, which atm at least, aren’t even modeled in. The version that Gaijin has chose to model is a weird abomination of variants, with the most concrete thing being said is Smin saying it’s supposed to be a Standard 3.
10.7-11.3 would def be too high of BR. The closest things to the SuE is the A-10A Early and Su-25K at 10.0, which while slower, carry far more and a larger variety of ordnance. At most I could maybe see 10.7, but 10.3 would be the more likely spot if it was given it’s Magic IIs. And the A-7Es are already known to be overtiered as it is. Q-5L meanwhile sits at 9.7, not even close in that range you gave.
Visually the plane currently presented by gaijin is not a std 3 may at least a std 4. if gaijin wants to propose a std 3 it would be necessary to remove a lot of decoys since without the Alkan 5081 launchers only the SEM std 3 remains tail launcher (LCQ) and its 5 or 6 cartridges (IR/EM)…
I see that now, idk why but when I had looked early this morning the CM pods were mounted on the outboard wing pylons just before the Magic pylons. But it seems like now it is mounted on it’s own independent inboard pylon as it should, which would make it a std. 4.
Meaning if it is the std 4 then the GBUs are justified as well. No matter what they try spinning it as. But it being a Std. 4 would make far more sense given it’s current capabilities.
Shouldnt the Super Etendard be able to carry GBU-12s on the pylons that carry magics?
Completely agree. I’d rather they do two version, an S3 version for 9.3 or 9.7, and an S5 version at higher BR.
Currently France has 0 10.0-11.3 GRB lineups, and ideally needs a PGM carrying, CM equipped, non-afterburning jet to compete with jets similar to the A-4N and Hunter F.58 to support its ground line-up. At 10.3 the Jaguar A exists, and the top-tier Mirage 2000-5F and 2000D are very powerful.
The top speed of those jets are well below supersonic. While the Étendard is right on the cusp of it.
Not really since they’re all well below subsonic.
Go check back on your sources bruh,… Mach 1.3 // 1560km/h
You’re boldly assuming that A-6E players will have the decency to run only 2 Limas
I understand they could theoretically run 4 (although why you’d do that and sacrifice a gun i dont know)
1080 for su 25 and 1100 for étendard in game note a Big difference
Not in game, étendard is subsonic, 1100km/h max
Oh and bombs on the centre pylon are magically hanging by the force of Baguette lol
the pylon isnt modelled yet.
Then they copy pasted Etendard IVM FM and it’s then Place holder FM.
Won’t be illogic considering that both streams were eager not to show it.
