Now it just needs it’s magic 2’s, as a slower non supersonic jet it should get them just like the A10-SU25
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because an a10 and a super etendard do have quite different flight characteristics
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A10 is super heavily indestructible like A6E or SU 25 and étendard wasn’t, A10 is more agile, SU25/A6E too with an equal speed
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all the balancing nerfs are for minor NATO nations whereas Russia casually quadruples the number of their vehicles with top missile
then show balance on A-6 / A-10 / Su-25’s
To be fair, Super Etendard is faster than those planes, and maybe more maneuverable.
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That document does not specify that the SEM 3 is capable of self guidance of LGBs, at least not in the pics you showed. The only things about laser guidance mentioned in the pics provided relate to mission completion and the night operational use.
It seems the matter entirely isn’t too well documented, least not on documents that can be easily found. The best document we really have to use on the Super Etendard is the one from air vector from 2006. Dassault Etendard & Super Etendard. That document specifies that the SEM 3 wasn’t capable of self guiding LGBs.
However, if you can find a better source that specifically states that the SEM 3 is capable of self guiding LGBs then I’ll gladly accept defeat as I’d rather it be able to as well. Ofc I’ll continue trying to look deeper into the subject as well, try finding any sort of source that backs up or refutes the claim.
It’s faster and more maneuverable yes. But at the same time doesn’t carry near the payload nor does it have the sturdy airframe the others have. The SuE shouldn’t be restricted in what it gets compared to it’s fellow subsonic attack aircraft all because it’s slightly faster. Su-25K is nearly 250 knots faster than the A-10A Early yet gets put at the same BR. Meanwhile the SuE is around 130 knots faster than the Su-25, but doesn’t have near the survivability.
Shoot, if it meant getting Magic IIs I probably wouldn’t mind too much if the SuE was put up to 10.3, no ground vehicles at 10.0 anyways to support a lineup. Even though just simply receiving what it’s peers gets at the same BR shouldn’t necessarily result in an increase.
The main thing is it will see F5Cs and will be outclassed by them. It needs the II’s to be competitive at this BR.
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to be fair, SuE and SEM are able to Mach 1.3, so that’s a bit of difference.
HOWEVER,… it’s not like Magic-2’s are superior in any way,… considering A-10A Late and it’s 4x 9L’s.
i would prefer to keep the F-8E(FN) at 10.0 and have SUE at 10.3/10.7 at this point, because of the numereous counter measures
If it goes 10.3 you might as well play the Jaguar. On top of that versus the A10 and SU25 it doesnt have as much lethality and velocity for its ammo so you are going to be limited on your shots.
Plus on the deck you can maybe do 1.05 in the Etendard, because if you climb it will be a death sentence.
SuE is a high subsonic aircraft. At max I believe it went up to mach 1.1, but it’s standard operational max speed was more likely around mach 0.9 to avoid airframe/engine damage. It tends to vary from source to source, but most list it’s max speed around mach 0.9-1.1. And it seems in-game Gaijin has taken the lazy route for now and just gave it the same max speed as the Etendard IV.
I mean, at 10.0 you’re better off taking the Mirage 5F in that case. And if you want to talk about ground line ups, France doesn’t have any 10.0 ground line up, so either way you’d have to choose between the SuE or Jaguar.
I was looking at a video of it - in a dive about 6000ft wing shake happens around 1.06 so its probably closer to .98 speed on the deck.
5F has no flares though which is a death.
While the 5F lacks flares, it can easily get in, bomb a base, and get out far before A-10s and Su-25s or any enemy for that matter would show up. The SuE might have countermeasures sure, but at the end of the day it’s still slow, by the time it gets to a base to bomb it there’s a good chance of it being intercepted before it even touches a base.
But as I said before, giving the SuE Magic IIs shouldn’t really need it to go up in BR when you have A-6s, A-10s, and Su-25s running around at 10.0 with the same 2 limit all-aspect missiles.
There is still 2 days of Dev server left. Could see it gaining another few loadout options or even in another Dev Server considering we’re expecting a few more things to be added that weren’t shown on stream.
Given how incomplete the SuE is it will most definitely change in someway. The only thing that was done between the stream and the release today was the addition of CM pods. The camo is most def still incomplete given how low res it is. The radar still needs to be fixed to it’s proper radar, the AS-30Ls will def be added considering there’s a modification for it, the FM is also prob just a copy paste of the IVM atm… Out of all the additions added rn the SuE is easily the most incomplete at the current moment.
I didnt even see the pods on the plane.
The pods are in the custom loadout menu ik that much, I had checked it this morning when it was updated. But I couldn’t GE the aircraft thanks to Gaijin not giving me my GE on the dev server(and I’m not grinding a 2nd WT tyvm you stupid excuse for a company) so I couldn’t really dive into the loadouts too much, only mess with the stock loadout of Magic 1s in a test drive