so when are you bringing anything to back up your claims instead of just diverting
What claims?
Never, obviously, he is here just to bait people. My optimism says that no person can be this dense and be able to even comprehend what aircraft is, so he does this deliberately (at least i really really hope so).
im crine 😭😭 bro what is this discussion even about anymore

yeah there is no way he is able to have a good faith argument
This bait?
This facts, commonly known
I remember Donut saying that any Su-57 topic eventually develops into a toxic waste, and now i see the truth in that lol. But we did try to keep it civil.
And this?
i think he meant it as a stopgap for their 4 and 4.5 gen fighters
And this is me not replying to any nonsense you will post afterwards. You are just going around in circles.
You can’t explain something to a man that doesn’t want to understand, so i wash my hands.
Of course that’s what he meant. But then the whole thing immediately starts falling apart, because they didn’t rush to integrate this missile onto the 4th and 4.5th generation fighters they already had in service at the time, even though that would’ve been the logical thing to do. Instead, they waited all the way until 2010 for the Su-35. Then this “stopgap solution” somehow became their main universal air-to-air missile for the next decade, while at the same time they were developing the T-50 — which, as it turns out, couldn’t even fit that supposedly universal missile internally. And meanwhile, since 2006, they were also developing an entirely different missile specifically for the T-50. Which is exactly why I start asking: why all this idiotic complexity when they could’ve just made one missile and upgraded it over time?
But I’m literally just quoting you lol.
Money lol
The only rational explanation
Me when we will never see it.
Haven’t heard anything about K-30’s program being restarted though, only saw some slopnews sources yapping about it a couple years back.
According to the NIIP site there was a modernized version of N001VEP with R-77-1 compatibility.

I’m also pretty sure SM3 uses N001VEP, and that has R-77-1.
(from @Saprano_2132)
Anyway, Cool Su-57 video.
Funny LDIRCM spinning
LDIRCM is LDIRCMING. Bro goin crazy