Sukhoi Su-57 Felon - Technical details, Analysis and Discussion

509 is in Dubai, how can it be 01 blue

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Did you miss the part where it was refinished exclusively for this showing? 01 Blue itself is in Dubai

If you want the full timeline:

It was delivered in 2017 as a Stage 2 testbed
In early 2021 it was refitted as a stage 3 airframe as Red 01 and given a contractual reg of 81774
In late 2021 during the Dzyomgi transfer it was held in Zhukovsky and repainted as Blue 01
A few months ago it was refitted entirely to its serial standard and repainted back to 509.

I know that thinking is hard, especially with how wildly reposts of insanely old images go around, but remember…

This

Is this

And this

Is this

It took 2 years to refit all 3 aircraft. Pretty much all of it started in a scramble when 51-0-01 crashed and there were no other pre-serial airframes that could fill its role in testing. That was the point of T-50-9’s conversion to 51-0-02.

I can barely remember it myself when I see half of the images being run around. There’s a spreadsheet I’ve been building since 2010 on the program’s milestones.

It doesnt make sense to me, especially 509 blue being 01 blue


01 blue was fully coated in RAM by 2020 when it was delivered
but we also have images of this year, where 509 is getting repainted
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The turquoish radome is clearly visible… it doesnt make sense for RAM to wear of so fast… or undo the whole coating just to make it “509” back

Other than that 511 doesnt make sense being a 52 red, in 2022 it was testing the megapolis sensors, at the same time 52 red also coexisted, i dont think so thats possible

This is the dumbest thing Ive read in a while

Another Gem from George. william gustavsson en X: “@GeorgeN28581 DIRCM does not work against Iris-t or other missiles with scanning arrays.” / X

Su-57 use little to no Flare. And it have a new “single use transmitters”(PPOI/ППОИ)” to jam incoming radar missile.

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mentioned about it quite long ago ))))

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Are you saying you disagree with that statement?
DIRCM dazzles the seeker of an IR missile the problem lies with systems like IRIS-T they don’t use conventional IR seekers.

How is a DIRCM dazzler/laser going to completely decoy an IIR missile?

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with enough power

the point of LDIRCM is to essentially burn the seeker by using a high power laser.

Any IIR is vulnerable to this, however IRIS T uses a focal plane array swashplate design which uses only parts of seeker at a time, hence reducing exposure time and allowing the missile to be resistant, for some time.

But it does works IR imaging seekers may be very resistant to laser jamming

Note that The laser did hide part of the aircraft. And the seeker has only managed to lock into part of the aircraft that was outside the laser. Thank to the Algorithm.

That its totally different to the cope people said about IRST; that DIRCM don’t work. I remember reading that with laser modulation the laser could totally blind the seeker. What its unknow its how Su-57 DIRCM work. People like you just assume that its the same as Mi-28.

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totally miss the second post.

what?

Ok so we have missiles that can home on jam, defeating Russian EW systems.
We have IIR missiles so Russia have developed a laser that has to detect the missile (meaning both IR/AESA MAWS system tied into this system) it then has to be in the perfect position to then somehow destroy the entirety of the IIR seeker, some will not be enough. in a very short window of time.

Now yes from 25km speculative shots maybe possible, in closer range engagements I would love to see the science.

As for Mi-28 a DIRCM system they are so proud of yet they actively stay out of range of SHORAD systems? It’s like an F-117 bragging about being immune to Radar and then just not flying over Baghdad and using stand off missiles instead.

or you know

maybe the heli crew is not suicidal
why should you risk it if you dont have to

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I missed that someone has already posted pic of it. I have read about it but i haven’t see pic of the ECM Cartridges.

I agree with you.

I was reading up on this and apparently these are actually in use? I was debating updating the suggestion with it.

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The specific one mentioned in the picture are not in use, We dont know whats the exact ECM cartridge used in the felon.

coverage is not perfect, and they can only deal with 1 at a time

Quick question,
Regarding the Byelka and accompanying N036 radars placed around the Felon, how is that picture put together for the pilot?
Can it search in a 360° AESA Scan (like the Pantsir), or is it more like having multiple scans contributing to an overall radar display?

Essentially will i get full coverage and can I focus power on particular sectors?