Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

They don’t really anticipate having to deal with that sort of stuff like the US or China due to their doctrine

Dedicated SEAD has lost a lot of its relevance, like dedicated strike fighters.

Relatively easy to just fit multi-role fighters with the equipment needed for the mission.

And you are only taking IRBIS itself into consideration here. Su-35S also has IRST with pretty cracked detection range and we don’t really know the technical details behind wingroot L-band radars, but L-band isn’t affected by RAM coating nearly as much as X-band.

This is extremely irrelevant argument. Not only military and consumer electronics belong to completely different markets, but also you are trying to use an end product on an international market as a basis for your comparison.

every time F-22 changes the aspect it’s RCS will change dynamically and detection range of IRBIS will increase.

Another thing, as i said above is L-ban radars in the slats. RAM coating is not great against decimeter wave frequencies.

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Texas Instruments does both

I am incredibly happy for Texas Instruments. Not everyone in the world use US business model.

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Ahem, unless you know the composition of the RAM (not all of the stuff is equal, plus different types are geared towards different spectrums) - you can’t really state that X or Y radar is better at countering it.

Ever notice the differences in shading, colour, etc on a Stealth Jet as seen from different angles? That’s because the material will actually be changed in makeup depending on where on the airframe it is. Even thicknesses can vary.

Anyone interested might find this book worth reading. It covers both Northrop and Lockheed and the different approaches they took.

It isn’t necessarily just the hardware but also the expertise of dedicated crews. The USN has obviously felt that a dedicated SEAD platform/crew is worth it otherwise the F/A-18G Growler wouldn’t be a thing. Have one or two airframes in a strike dedicated to doing the spooky stuff and that allows the other aircraft to focus on their own tasks (A2A, A2G, Recce, etc.)

It’s not about X or Y radar, it’s about wavelengths. Vast majority of modern radar equipment works on X-band so RAM is mostly tuned to absorb this range of frequencies.

Again, there is no public data as to what wavelengths stealth coatings are optimised for. What I can say with some certainty is that the whole - ‘Low frequency/Long Wavelength counters stealth’ claim is usually made by arms manufacturers to sell their Low Frequency/Long Wavelength radar systems.

There is no silver bullet to achieve or negate stealth. Given that such radars have been around in air defence systems for the past few decades - it is unlikely to be an area of the spectrum that everyone but Sukhoi forgot about.

Coming back onto topic - I don’t doubt that the Su-35 is probably the best fighter in the VKS arsenal. Better even than the Su-57, since at least the Flanker family has a well-proven design, produced in numbers with most of the kinks and bugs ironed out.

As to whether it could go head to head with a Western equivalent on an equal footing BVR? I don’t know.

Another new camo coming next update

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Man i wanna my dark grey su30
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Algeria based

Now I’m not sure if to get this one or Russian Knights. But both are way better than that atrocious navy livery that gaijin cooked. Poor thing looks abandoned on the some rundown air field for 5 years.

One more tweak and current Navy livery will actually have similar shade.

If I had to pick one of the two, I’d buy the russian knights one, which is also a camo achievable with kill points.

Idk if the digital scheme will just be GE

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Wait, those are not marketplace versions?

The Khazak and RK camos were GE camos, with the RK being also free with kill points.

The digital scheme wasn’t available on dev yet, it closed before the camo was implemented, so I have no idea if it’s GE or marketplace :(

Russian Knights being available for kills is based. Now i don’t need to think about snatching it on Marketplace.

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i want to have the darker tone white digital camo skin, like on serial su57

we cant say anything on that because we dont know the actual RCS of f22 and f35, and the 0.0001m2 values arent acceptable either. RCS changes drastically even with the slightest change of angle.

And it isnt bright on the other side too, Max range would be pretty probabilistic, gets affected by many other factors, and TWS at those ranges will be finnicky and lose even soft lock quite a lot.

you are partially correct, but F-22 would likely have to do the same thing by using narrow beam against other stealth jets, atleast at the start of the match in bvr, which would negate effects of LPI. Atleast it wont need to do that in sub 20km furballs, but going much closer than 10km and lpi would still become useless

Su-35 L band radars were only limited to IFF, only N036L on su57 has the detection function mentioned afaik.

Almost all RAM i recall function better at lower wavelengths/higher frequencies, Most modern stealth fighter are designed against X band anyways so i wouldnt be surprised if it works worse in L bands.

Take for eg. MnZn, many public graphs for it are available online

But still by what extent it reduces depends on the nature of RAM as you said, i wonder how gaijin will model it…

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