Now I’m not sure if to get this one or Russian Knights. But both are way better than that atrocious navy livery that gaijin cooked. Poor thing looks abandoned on the some rundown air field for 5 years.
One more tweak and current Navy livery will actually have similar shade.
If I had to pick one of the two, I’d buy the russian knights one, which is also a camo achievable with kill points.
Idk if the digital scheme will just be GE
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Wait, those are not marketplace versions?
The Khazak and RK camos were GE camos, with the RK being also free with kill points.
The digital scheme wasn’t available on dev yet, it closed before the camo was implemented, so I have no idea if it’s GE or marketplace :(
Russian Knights being available for kills is based. Now i don’t need to think about snatching it on Marketplace.
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hope that digital camo skin can be bought with GE like the navy skin. dont have accses to the market place and dont want to gamble my shit away to get it
i want to have the darker tone white digital camo skin, like on serial su57
we cant say anything on that because we dont know the actual RCS of f22 and f35, and the 0.0001m2 values arent acceptable either. RCS changes drastically even with the slightest change of angle.
And it isnt bright on the other side too, Max range would be pretty probabilistic, gets affected by many other factors, and TWS at those ranges will be finnicky and lose even soft lock quite a lot.
you are partially correct, but F-22 would likely have to do the same thing by using narrow beam against other stealth jets, atleast at the start of the match in bvr, which would negate effects of LPI. Atleast it wont need to do that in sub 20km furballs, but going much closer than 10km and lpi would still become useless
Su-35 L band radars were only limited to IFF, only N036L on su57 has the detection function mentioned afaik.
Almost all RAM i recall function better at lower wavelengths/higher frequencies, Most modern stealth fighter are designed against X band anyways so i wouldnt be surprised if it works worse in L bands.
Take for eg. MnZn, many public graphs for it are available online
But still by what extent it reduces depends on the nature of RAM as you said, i wonder how gaijin will model it…
Very poorly, most likely.
Interesting. Although it’s a bit weird to use an actual radar for IFF.
Ngl, i prefer more natural lines on a camo, rather than a digital squares. Or one-two tone liveries with some airframe elements of separate colour like on navy Su-30s.
Anything which doesn’t looks like it’s straight from scrapyard, which is most of the su30 skins rn
Su-34 two-tone livery is even more disasterous than Su-30 one.
This why NIIP say but the source for f22 radar is the worst of all time
Spoiler
It is interesting to compare the “duel” capabilities of the Su-27SM2 (Su-35) and F-22A “Sukhoy” aircraft complexes, equipped with “Irbis”, can detect a target with an EPR of 0.1-0.5 m2 (approximately in this interval lies the value of the effective radar scattering surface of the inconspicuous Lockheed Martin F/A-22A aircraft) at a distance of 165-240 km. At the same time, the American fighter “sees” its enemy with an EPR of 1 m2 at a distance of only 200 km (Jane’s All the World’s Aircraft 2005-2006). Thus, the inconspicuous “Raptor” with its AFAR in terms of the on-board radar complex has no real advantages over the modernized “Sukhi” in missile air combat at an “non-visual” range.
are you really using Janes as a source? and even then it falls right on the average of the claims for the russian source
additionally the RCS of Su27 or Su35 are much larger than the 1 square meter target while there are claims that the f22 RCS is smaller than that assumed range,
so trusting both your sources f22 will likely have ~90%+ chance of spotting the SU at 200km while for the same certainty the SU will have to be at 165km or less
This is not Jane’s it’s from niip old library
https://web.archive.org/web/20081003214650/http://www.niip.ru/main.php?page=library_sky18
I’m saying niip sources Jane’s for figures on f22, I’m not using Jane’s itself. I’m using niip
Not really, a radar is basically a big transiver and receiver so it can sent the iff interrogation and receive the response
They technically could be integrated into the RWR as well since it can receive radar signals
oh, still that pretty much makes the comparison invalid to the point where I dont know if id trust other NIIP sources on similar topics
I mean niip press material I would assume they would have to use public source for foreign aircraft. They’re literally thr maker of the radio electronics on Russian planes, they’re primary level source. For their material on foreign aircraft it’s not a proper source which is why I only use their foreign material as comparison and not 100 fact
yes but I wouldnt trust their comparisons to foreign equipment because they clearly do not use proper sources for said equipment
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You can’t take any public rcs value for the f22 seriously especially since there is a CIA doc out there saying that they put out alot of bs numbers for the f22 so that Noone publicly can be sure which one is the correct one
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Yeah ik. That’s why I’m just doing general comparisons using their material as seen in the f22 thread. For example their material states su35 would detect f22 at 240ish km while using the values from the f22 thread I calculated it to be around 29km