Sukhoi Su-27/30/33/35/37 Flanker series & Su-34 Fullback - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

You found time to scroll trough all of this, find my half-joking reply about the small buff that Su-30SM recieved, take offence and write an entire reply. I’m flattered. Although you kinda proven my point about the entitlement of US mains with that.
Besides, depending on the classification F-15E is considered to be 4.5 gen aircraft as well.
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TL:DR you got offended by a joke and proved the punchline to be true

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J-16/mig 35 wasn’t even imagined in the 90s, that list is such nonsense

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It’s rlly not that deep

Probably someone just added those later into the list because they fit. IIRC originally 4.5 generation was given to any Gen 4 aircraft that recieved ability to use guided air to ground weapons. Moreover this whole classification isn’t even strictly official, it’s just a way to generally describe aircraft “level of coolness” for mass public.

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Imma look for more sources for al37, I don’t think 711 used it but maybe it did, I’ll share my findings eventually

Probably gotta dig trough books. Any easily found media sources always state AL-31FP. I am inclined to believe that that book just confused the names of the engines.

Same that’s what I’m thinking too. All Russian sources that I already have state al31fp, but maybe I can find it. Maybe it was built but was just never put in it

The chief dev of the engine. Confused the name? nah. And also the pilot?.. Nah. Again its not a third person describing something. But interview of people that worked on it.

Gaijin don’t accept pilot statements and in most situations I’m inclined to side with them on that

Do you have at least the name of the book so i can find it here?

I just found the pilot interview and he does indeed say al 37


Although this makes no sense al31fp were the engines that should’ve been installed at that time. I think pilot just wrong

I can’t find that al37fu was ever actually installed but I can find statements that it was meant to be installed eventually as replacement for al31fp

V3 would be better since V2 was very early and a lot heavier

I misunderstood something, thought the (V)3 was not used by the US and was just being retrofitted to some other nations F-15’s, but yeah (V)3 as well

After like 30 minutes I think al37fu was never fitted into su37, only al31fp

It will not happen and you know this already, i suggest stop complaining about rafale and focus on what Gaijin can add as proper counterpart.

This is just blatant power creep. And it becomes even worse in a current state of constant compression. Introducing more Rafale level aircframes will make this game even more of a mess

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Sooner or later they will come into the game.

Better later than sooner. Everything starting with F-16C Block 50 and MiG-29SMT was extremely rushed. There should’ve been more gradual introduction of weaponry and avionics advancement, instead of jumping literal decades of RnD.

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Empty weight of su-35 → 18400 kg

Empty weight of su-35s → 18400 - 19000 kg

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