only one that would be on par with euro and rafale would be f-15ex though imo (and even then it would still be worse than AESA typhoon and rafale still). The other’s are still too terrible, mostly in flight model due to engines. Su35 will likely be better than f15ex as well
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Vs the EFT, they’d have the radar and missile load advantage with most of the ones I suggested, the Rafale is its own problem, and I dont think its healthy to think of balancing regarding buffing everyone to Rafale levels instead of just bringing the Rafale back from fantasy-land where it currently exists. A lot of things could be done to tone down the Rafale and game balance would be back to something pretty decent imo.
Skipping straight to the EX invalidates literally everything else the US could get barring 5th gen jets, and being a large playerbase, would require other nations to skip ahead to their most advanced non-5th jet jets as well, such as the Su-35, J-16, EFT with CAPTOR-E, and Gripen-E, shunting a lot of other jets that have yet to be added into irrelevance.
Its the Rafale that should be balanced around the game (and reality for once) instead of the other way around. We’re just speed-running the games death by suggesting the absolute most advanced stuff in each nations arsenal to try to cope with a problem that has very clear and easy solutions.
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I should have worded it better. Yea in that book there was nothing. I just was pointing that it wasn’t me that said it was that book. But the page.
The other book. The one about Lyuka/Saturn. Talked about AL-37FU and how it was on the Su-37 when it come to the FIDAE 1998 here in Chile. How they have to Repair and Change a Blade(?). After a incident with a Seagull, how it was the first time that it was done in Russia and they did really fast. Its also talk about how they started the TVC for Su-37 around 1994. Sadly They started remembering a problem that the jet/engine have in sep 1996 when it was about to fly to UK Farnborough.
Not really a technical book. But more anecdotic of the work that people did in the company. But still a pretty good Source that the engine exist and was use on the plane. Its not some third guy talk about it. But the people that developed it.
My take after reading it. Its that Su-37 did fly with AL-31FP at the start. But they change it to AL-37FU. The book clearly make a the different. And they even add a note on that part. Specifying that the Su-37 was the only jet flying with AL-37fu in that fly to Chile/Brasil.
“The AL-37FU engine was boosted with a controlled thrust vector - Chief Designer A.V. Andreev, was installed only on the Su-37 aircraft (board “711”).”
Edit. Also "All these maneuvers make it possible to take a position that is most advantageous in a combat situation. Of course, all this became possible thanks to the AL-37FU engine with a controlled thrust vector. The gas-dynamic stability of the engine is excellent. Despite the fact that the Su-37 performs virtuoso maneuvers at full afterburners and at some point flies literally tail first, there has never been a malfunction of the engines during all flights. Now all the advantages have been received by the Su-30mki aircraft with Ap-31 FP engines.
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You found time to scroll trough all of this, find my half-joking reply about the small buff that Su-30SM recieved, take offence and write an entire reply. I’m flattered. Although you kinda proven my point about the entitlement of US mains with that.
Besides, depending on the classification F-15E is considered to be 4.5 gen aircraft as well.
TL:DR you got offended by a joke and proved the punchline to be true
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J-16/mig 35 wasn’t even imagined in the 90s, that list is such nonsense
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It’s rlly not that deep
Probably someone just added those later into the list because they fit. IIRC originally 4.5 generation was given to any Gen 4 aircraft that recieved ability to use guided air to ground weapons. Moreover this whole classification isn’t even strictly official, it’s just a way to generally describe aircraft “level of coolness” for mass public.
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Imma look for more sources for al37, I don’t think 711 used it but maybe it did, I’ll share my findings eventually
Probably gotta dig trough books. Any easily found media sources always state AL-31FP. I am inclined to believe that that book just confused the names of the engines.
Same that’s what I’m thinking too. All Russian sources that I already have state al31fp, but maybe I can find it. Maybe it was built but was just never put in it
The chief dev of the engine. Confused the name? nah. And also the pilot?.. Nah. Again its not a third person describing something. But interview of people that worked on it.
Gaijin don’t accept pilot statements and in most situations I’m inclined to side with them on that
Do you have at least the name of the book so i can find it here?
I just found the pilot interview and he does indeed say al 37
Although this makes no sense al31fp were the engines that should’ve been installed at that time. I think pilot just wrong
I can’t find that al37fu was ever actually installed but I can find statements that it was meant to be installed eventually as replacement for al31fp
V3 would be better since V2 was very early and a lot heavier
I misunderstood something, thought the (V)3 was not used by the US and was just being retrofitted to some other nations F-15’s, but yeah (V)3 as well
After like 30 minutes I think al37fu was never fitted into su37, only al31fp
It will not happen and you know this already, i suggest stop complaining about rafale and focus on what Gaijin can add as proper counterpart.
This is just blatant power creep. And it becomes even worse in a current state of constant compression. Introducing more Rafale level aircframes will make this game even more of a mess
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