This makes me want og su-35 from the 90s even more
You sure you aren’t confusing N010 and N010M for scan rate and such? N010 is on Yak-141 currently only
I mean n010, whatever radar the smt, j10 and the yak have in game. The yak, smt and the j10 radar seem to be all the same to me. They all got 80 degree per sexond scan rates and 85 limit in game currently
They aren’t, SMT and J-10 have upgraded versions. OG N010 is Yak-141 only.
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I meant in game. They’re all the same I think in terms of performance and stats
Hmm, Yak-141 has less DL channels less lock range, but in terms of gimbal it seems it is similar to SMT radar. And, well, no NCTR as well.
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Oh yeah I missed that you’re right. J10 seems to be copy paste of 141 radar and smt is slightly upgraded
Well, regarding Su-27M it will come down to what exact specifications will be used. If we are talking about “serial production” airframe, then it will be N011, R-77 and still AL-31F as an engine on a much heavier airframe. For game meta it will actually be worse than current SM in my opinion simply because it will have even worse flight model. IF Gaijin gonna give it some of the test equipment, like aforementioned AL-41s then it might be quite competitive. But i honestly doubt that because i can’t remember such precedents from the past. Even if we take half-baked things like Yak-141 or completely paper planes like F-16AJ they aren’t introduced with equipment that was put on them for “test purposes”
I’m making a suggestion for 710 with al41f1 engines and n011 radar, which I think will probably be the best su27 derivative in terms of flight performance
With full 3d TVC, 14kN of thrust and canards - probably. We shouldv’e gotten Su-27M as a TT vehicle a while ago, with Su-37 as an event vehicle, instead of rushing towards modern tech.
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while making the suggestion I realized this radar has the best elevation angles I’ve ever seen ±90
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Eurofighter, Rafale, Su-30SM are all gen 4.5 aircraft. US doesn’t have a gen 4.5 aircraft yet.
It isn’t exactly outrageous to ask for an F-15EX, since we already have gen 4.5s in the game that are better than F-15EX anyway, because of how accurate RWRs are in the game for notching and overall how easy notching is, and 60m multipathing, which decrease the importance of BVR.
TLDR: Get off your high horse, your victim card has expired.
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Jesus H. Christ.
That’s quite the gimbal.
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There are arguably better options for the game atm besides the F-15EX
- F-15C with AN/APG-63(V)2 AESA
- F-15E with AN/APG-82(V)1 AESA
- F-16C with AN/APG-83 AESA
- F/A-18E with AN/APG-79 AESA (though this would require them to skip the Super Hornets with the AN/APG-73)
The F-15EX comes with some extra bells and whistles that the US doesn’t quite yet need id argue, and should be left for when gaijin improves the game enough to warrant actually going even more modern with jet tech, since as it stands, the maps are too small, and the objective sets too simple for the munitions and sensors we have access too to be used in a fun and balanced way.
Honestly, the US wouldn’t need a whole lot of much atm if the Rafale wasnt such a problem for everyone.
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There is no mention of al-37 in that book…
Just search up Су-27. История истребителя and click the one thats on archive.org, you can check it yourself. no mention of al-37 just al31 fp or more like al31f (with tvc) prototype
only one that would be on par with euro and rafale would be f-15ex though imo (and even then it would still be worse than AESA typhoon and rafale still). The other’s are still too terrible, mostly in flight model due to engines. Su35 will likely be better than f15ex as well
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Vs the EFT, they’d have the radar and missile load advantage with most of the ones I suggested, the Rafale is its own problem, and I dont think its healthy to think of balancing regarding buffing everyone to Rafale levels instead of just bringing the Rafale back from fantasy-land where it currently exists. A lot of things could be done to tone down the Rafale and game balance would be back to something pretty decent imo.
Skipping straight to the EX invalidates literally everything else the US could get barring 5th gen jets, and being a large playerbase, would require other nations to skip ahead to their most advanced non-5th jet jets as well, such as the Su-35, J-16, EFT with CAPTOR-E, and Gripen-E, shunting a lot of other jets that have yet to be added into irrelevance.
Its the Rafale that should be balanced around the game (and reality for once) instead of the other way around. We’re just speed-running the games death by suggesting the absolute most advanced stuff in each nations arsenal to try to cope with a problem that has very clear and easy solutions.
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I should have worded it better. Yea in that book there was nothing. I just was pointing that it wasn’t me that said it was that book. But the page.
The other book. The one about Lyuka/Saturn. Talked about AL-37FU and how it was on the Su-37 when it come to the FIDAE 1998 here in Chile. How they have to Repair and Change a Blade(?). After a incident with a Seagull, how it was the first time that it was done in Russia and they did really fast. Its also talk about how they started the TVC for Su-37 around 1994. Sadly They started remembering a problem that the jet/engine have in sep 1996 when it was about to fly to UK Farnborough.
Not really a technical book. But more anecdotic of the work that people did in the company. But still a pretty good Source that the engine exist and was use on the plane. Its not some third guy talk about it. But the people that developed it.
My take after reading it. Its that Su-37 did fly with AL-31FP at the start. But they change it to AL-37FU. The book clearly make a the different. And they even add a note on that part. Specifying that the Su-37 was the only jet flying with AL-37fu in that fly to Chile/Brasil.
“The AL-37FU engine was boosted with a controlled thrust vector - Chief Designer A.V. Andreev, was installed only on the Su-37 aircraft (board “711”).”
Edit. Also "All these maneuvers make it possible to take a position that is most advantageous in a combat situation. Of course, all this became possible thanks to the AL-37FU engine with a controlled thrust vector. The gas-dynamic stability of the engine is excellent. Despite the fact that the Su-37 performs virtuoso maneuvers at full afterburners and at some point flies literally tail first, there has never been a malfunction of the engines during all flights. Now all the advantages have been received by the Su-30mki aircraft with Ap-31 FP engines.
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