Ah but you see the soviets just woke up one day and decided that because the US had a program researching supermanuverability they needed one as well.
All the other research the soviets did into manuverability, control systems and FBW means absolutely nothing obviously…
New camo (from datamine)
As always, love their slider, which makes the jet look like it’s at this phase of its life:
Does that mean this seeker used the same IRCCM method as the one in the R-73, or is it something different?
It’s pretty obvious this was copied from the experimental versions of the Vigilante, which the Soviets got access to when copying their Foxbat.
irl the r73 is quite a bit more resistant to cms than in game, but yeah they would essentially be the same
Regarding the effectiveness of the R-73, the following quote from the MiG-29 manual was cited:
And what kind of research did they conduct and when? The US was testing FBW back in 1972 on that cute Phantom with canards:
btw i was referrring to this seekerhead, not the one currently on the r73, so i was actually wrong in that it would be similar to that of current r73, this is r-74 seekerhead. og r73 seekerhead is one band 2 element seeker if i remember right
Can they like, add a skin that DOESN’T look like it was left outside since the fall of the Soviet Union?
I’d love that to happen for once, latest flanker releases look like they’ve been forgotten under the sun for a few years -_-
I can understand a bit of weathering, but these look like they’ve been abandoned lol
Like, I get that they don’t want the planes looking squeaky clean, so they weather them a bit, but like…
This is more like “State of Disrepair” as opposed to “Operational Fighter”
Like, at least make it lest rusty…
Yep, looks like they use the “museum without funds for renovations” standard for their camos
Gaijin be giving their jets the Admiral Kuznetsov care routine.
Cant wait for the Mig-25 release to look like this:
What I mean is, according to my quote, the effectiveness of this IRCCM method decreases with distance to the target. Not sure if that’s actually modeled in the game.
Ah, so it’s just a flying testbed the Soviets used when they tried to copy the XB-70. Got it now. No, your example isn’t really relevant, because that Phantom was used to test improvements to maneuverability. Actually, FBW was already present on the Vigilante - the one from which the Soviets copied the idea of canards, as I mentioned earlier. You get the idea.
do you have any source or was it revealed to you in a dream that soviets copy stuff even when they make it first?
No, rather than reducing the FoV it is simply moving the aircraft to the edge of the FoV so that any flares emitted do not rise to peak brightness before they leave the FoV. iirc this feature is called “push ahead” and should be on the AIM-9M. Obviously this is situational, as it would not be as useful against shoulder mounted countermeasure launchers like on some Russian planes. They’d launch the flares ahead of them in any kind of turn when the missile is launched at their rear… thus still keeping them in FoV even with push-ahead features.
The multi-element seeker simply defers to the fact that the crossed array elements have not one element, but two types so that it may use signaling techniques to track the target with two wavebands. The Magic 2 uses such a feature as well, which should make for good resistance against certain types of flares if they do not match both the skin and the exhaust IR signature or are intense enough to obscure the target.
yes by the nature of how gaijin modeled the r-73 irccm ingame, it is less effective at longer ranges
The R-73’s irccm is properly modeled in-game in regards to how it functions, it is just too large of a FoV. The FoV of both it, and the Magic 2, is much smaller irl. We’re talking like half the size or smaller. The problem is that making it any smaller results in extremely OP missiles and Gaijin has made a balancing decision here.
Isn’t it obvious that no one copies directly from anyone else, except in rare isolated cases? Even when it comes to borrowing ideas and concepts, or industrial espionage.
well iam interested how stuff like the IRIS-T will perform on planes with seeker shut-off and fov reduction combined
